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Soundwave on 01 August 2023
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pikashoe said:
Soundwave said:

In fairness the 3DS was announced in 2010, the PS3 in 2005 (?) ... if the DS and PS2 could leg out to 150+ million, then if your whole argument is Switch is actually a better seller than those two ... well it was also some weak shit to say "yeah but we can't have Switch 2 announced or talked about until like 8 years into the product cycle!".

Switch has already had a pretty large advantage in being 7 years old and still not having an official announcement of a successor even though we know now dev kits are out in the wild and that news is spreading.

If you need a product cycle where you have like 8 years all to yourself and no successor announcement ... I mean, it kind of diminishes the idea that you're actually the best seller, it's more that you just have the more favorable circumstances (ridiculously favorable frankly).


Very different circumstances. In the past consoles used to sell well for years after a successor was released now they die pretty much as soon as a successor is announced. Also the ps2 and ds were dirt cheap in the latter part of their lives, whereas the switch hasn't really had a notable price drop. They've barely even done any bundles for the console either. The console market also seems to be diminishing in europe with that being the only market that the switch will end up being very significantly behind the ds in (also the main market where the ps5 is struggling against the ps4)

If the metric was always going to be "well give us 8, maybe 9 full years without a successor and it can be done" it was always kind of a dumb ask to begin with, lets be honest. No company is going to mortgage their future and hold up a successor system that has to carry the company for the following 7 years because of some arbitrary number. 

Nintendo doesn't care about this stuff either. We know that because the DS 100% could have sold 160+ million if Nintendo wanted it to and taken the record, Nintendo was so close, the fact that they gave zero fucks and still shut down DS shipments when they could have had the record tells you they don't care at all about this stuff. 

As for Europe, that's going to be a challenge for everyone if that market is in decline.