Race swapping and whitewashing

[Chrkeller]

Mnementh said:

Chrkeller said:

I beleive most people are just tired of politics being forced into media where it doesn't belong. There is a scene in Crowded Room that completely didn't fit the story line, was clearly political grooming and even suggested white males with mental disorders deserve to be mistreated by the justice system.

I think people simply want politics to stay in the political arena so they can enjoy their hobbies without being groomed.

I recall reading Hogwarts Legacy review on Polygon, except it was a thesis on JK and didn't really talk about the game.  Girlfriend reviews was literally attacked and briefly taken down in Discord because they dared to consider reviewing Hogwarts Legacy.  This behavior is a problem and should concern people.  

People are tired of politics in their face all day long.

I have to disagree *hard* on this. People aren't tired of politics in their media and I would argue some of the best art and media is political. But before going into that, I want to point out what people are actually tired of. I think there are two things.

The first is basically, that a piece of art needs first to entertain, before it can educate. People need to want to watch, read or otherwise experience the art, then they also can digest the underlying messages and they can inform their behaviour. Modern movies often tend to forget that entertainment part, or the education part is propped on without connection and feels misplaced.

Secondly I think most people are upset, because these discussion are often presented in black and white. This thing is bad, everyone supporting it is a bad person. This thing is good, everyone *not* supporting it must be backwards. Reality often isn't black and white, there are many shades of grey. Real people in the real world often acknowledge that. A lot of modern cinema doesn't. That is something which tends to piss people off.

But political messages in art can work, and do this even these days. Pretty much everyone I know and online really loves Arcane. Even though it is very much political and "woke" on many levels. Having strong female characters, gay characters, characters with differing ethnicities and belief systems, strong injustices, social and power inequalities. But all this works, because it is organically threaded into a compelling and interesting story.

Joker is another example. For some reason it is seen as anti-"woke", but I would disagree. The movie shows the injustice of the health system, the systemic discrimination of people with mental illnesses, the discrimination of poor people, the indifference or even open hate from rich people towards these problems. That all are very much political and "woke" agendas. Yet the movie presents them in a compelling way.

The korean movie Parasite is also showing strong social inequality and the society that produces. Very woke. And got great reviews because it is a great movie. Even though these topics are very much political.

So yeah, I disagree. People don't hate politics in their media. They jsut hate bad media with propped on and clumsy representation of political issues. We dislike bad art. Simple as that.

We are saying the same thing.  What you posted is exactly what I mean when I said people are tired of politics being "forced" into media where it doesn't belong.  Some stories inherently have political elements and it fits.  The problem is when a story inherently isn't political and is forced because reasons.