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curl-6 on 21 July 2023
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Soundwave said:
curl-6 said:

I think the discrepency lies in that the McKinsey article uses data from 2015-2019, while representaton stepped up a lot in the last few years.

Your other link also draws on data back to 2017, so it's a few years before the curve.

As far as movies go, I'd take an actual study over anybody's forum list.

I don't think any reasonable person would say that people of colour don't deserve strong representation, I certainly don't think anyone here is arguing that, I think the sentiment is more that race swapping established characters isn't a good solution.

I mean, why not create original characters instead for example. Surely that way would be better for everyone. The goal should be equitable representation for all, not tit for tat.

Representation has only stepped up in the last several years because of pressure and work by PoC groups and it's mainly a rise in linear television, which isn't the giant ass prize that I think you believe it is ... getting in on linear old fashioned TV at this point is like having the no.1 game on the Wii U in 2016. It's a dying format. It's not even like 2015-19 is some ancient time period too, lol, that's just a few years ago. 

You can easily look at the top 20-30 movies of every year for the last 20 years, you don't need a study for that, tell me when you find multiple years with PoC headlining 30% of those films. This is not even opening the can of worms that Latino and Asian groups are still under-represented across the board in everything. 

There aren't that many race-swapped characters to begin with (as in PoC taking jobs from white actors when white actors get are overwhelmingly represented and have a broad range of roles they can audition for). Ariel being black one time isn't the end of the world. If you're going to talk about "tit for tat", then as far as I'm concerned should that not apply to white people not crying or making a giant ass stink every time any other group gets a little more representation here and there? 

Can there be some freaking maturity there in understanding that they have been over-represented in media and still are especially in terms of leading roles in big ticket film/TV projects? Instead the reaction is more akin to a spoiled 5 year old throwing a fit at their birthday that other kids are getting to eat some of their birthday cake and the entire cake is not for them, even though they are still getting the biggest piece? Can we acknowledge that too? 

No offense but the one "throwing a fit" here is you. Your posts are full of unnecessary hostility.

Nobody here is attacking people of colour, yet you're constantly bashing white people and saying those who disagree with you are spoiled children.

Is it too much to ask that we discuss the issue with, in your words "some freaking maturity"?

Last edited by curl-6 - on 21 July 2023