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Soundwave on 09 February 2023
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RolStoppable said:
Soundwave said:

The Switch already is a success, and frankly I've played a lot of great games on "failed consoles" too, so why should I care. The next Mario Kart is going to come either way, I'd rather play it on a 4K console. Simple as that. 

You might have a point with that if "bigger userbase" actually meant "well you get way better 3rd party games", but that isn't the case with Nintendo systems anyway, Switch can sell double what it has and it still wouldn't get a lot of software because it's still too much of a pain in the ass to port. Whereas with a Switch 2 there's a fairly reasonably possibility that games like Street Fighter VI and Resident Evil 4 Remake would be in play. 

It isn't really even the case that Nintendo some how "tries harder" on systems that sell more. They don't, they've made plenty of great games on some of their lower selling consoles. They're going to make quality games either way, so that isn't really a factor either. 

Like I'm pretty sure there is going to be a Mario Kart 9 at some point, is it really a benefit to me that I play that on Switch instead of a Switch 2? No, the version of the game on a Switch 2 would be better. 

If Nintendo chooses to make a bunch of stupid design/marketing/hardware or software/release decisions with the Switch 2 and it declines from Switch 1, that's on them. Get better at hardware transitions, get your shit together with better preparation, stop making excuses, that's all there is to hardware transitions, it's not some kind of elusive magic trick.

Then it would be fair to sum up your stance as "Wii U or Switch level sales, makes no difference in the end."

If you can't manage hardware transitions better than that, then how is it my problem exactly? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.  

Did I (or anyone else) put a gun to Nintendo's head and tell them to double down on the already fading Wii trend and bet it all on an expensive controller gimmick that no one wanted just because controller gimmicks were somehow now supposed to be the Nintendo trademark way to sell consoles? 

Stop crying and get better at hardware transitions would be my suggestion to Nintendo in that regard. Stop making such blatantly poor decisions and you'll be fine. 

At the end of the day from a *gaming standpoint* the transition to HD from SD consoles was good for Nintendo gamers. Games like BOTW, TOTK, Splatoon 1/2, Xenoblade X/2/3, Mario Odyssey, Pikmin 3, Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8, would all be worse on the Wii or not even possible at all, there's no reason to expect the transition to 4K PS4+ tier hardware won't be just as good for Nintendo gamers. 

There's no company in this business that is above getting burned for making stupid decisions. Sony took it up the ass when they made several critical errors with the PS3 early on, they learned from it, stabilized the PS3 as the gen went on and fixed those problems for the PS4 launch and the only hiccup they've really had since the PS3 launch for home consoles was they could not supply enough PS5s for people who wanted them. Which is about the best problem you can have. It's not that hard to launch a console, it's only hard if you are making obviously poor decisions. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 09 February 2023