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Trumpstyle said:

I didn't read everything you said op but most of your complains can apply to every story. The simple answer is the writers wanna tell a story.

I don't get that. What things I complained about are necessary to tell a story?


As far some complains you have I remember reading:
Kratos says this in his diary, he didn't take the peace deal from Odin because he said he would take care of Freya for him, and Kratos didn't want her to die, that's why he said no. Most likely Odin knew this and wanted Kratos/Atreus go looking for Tyr.

Kratos sure is a man of few words, but he is no dunce. He could have easily explained that Freya is a friend and that if she gets harmed the deal is off. And Odin desperately wanted to prevent Ragnarök, so it is not most likely that he wanted Kratos and Atreus to go looking for Tyr, with Tyr being this key figure in Ragnarök. Most likely he wanted them to stay completely out of his way. Only becaus that was not an option (Kratos said "no"), Odin tried to convince Atreus to "work" with him, inviting him to Asgard, masking himself as Tyr to prevent them from finding the real one and being able to keep a close eye on the enemy.

And making Freya the reason the deal between Odin and Kratos could not stand is another example of lazy storytelling. Feels like giving a tagged on reason for why a deal that does not at all have to include her cannot work.


As for why Atreus/Kratos make those decisions you complaining about it's simple, Atreus is a giant and he want to save them, find them and from the prophecy from the first game, Kratos dies and he want to change that. Odin is just a threat. Kratos pretty much follow along what Atreus does as he want to protect his son.

I don't complain that Atreus wants to save the giants. I complain that even though it says in the prophecy that he servs Odin and that his dad dies, he just goes and servs Odin anyways. His reasoning: to get control of the situation and be a cool spy. And Kratos does not just follow along what Atreus does either - Atreus makes idiotic decisions (like going to Asgard) and Kratos rightfully is in stark opposition to that.

And how is Odin a threat to them? He is a liar and manipuator, yes. But what did Odin really do against them? Killing Brok out of nowhere, dumb decision, yes. Stealing the moon in Vanaheim? Alright, but that is not really a threat to Kratos or Atreus. I would argue that Heimdall posed a bigger threat to Atreus than Odin to Atreus and Kratos. Heimdall actually wanted to murder Atreus and would have tried if Kratos did not stop him.

Why they attacked Asgard is simple, to reach Odin they have to attack Asgard, Kratos did walk away first, but from what I remember he said something that walking away is how to lose and he wanted vengeance. Kratos also says in the game that trying to avoid fate is how the prophecy comes true.

Making Ragnarök happen did this to Kratos side: Freyr and Freya were occupied much of the attack with trying to stop the Ragnarök monster. Their other forces were very much occupied with trying to bring civilians to safety. They should have perhaps at some point attacked Odin. But attacking all of Asgard is a bad idea. And Kratos realizes that (too late, but only five minutes in the attack). It is dumb to go to some lenghts and doing somehthing so extreme as summoning Raknarök only to realize 5 minutes later that he would rather not have it. Ragnarök (which is the title of the game mind you) is the most unnecessary thing happening in the whole game.

As how they busted Odins cover is just my speculation but there should be 1 or 2 interviews with the game devs where they explain the story. I Haven't seen them but very early in the development they had already made the decision that Brok is gonna die and this is what they came up with. It was the same with Ragnarök, they wanted it to happen.

It is not enough for a writer to say that he wants to arrive at point x without providing a compelling way how to get there. Broks death could have been good, but was weird at best seeing as though Odin would never make such an idiot decision blowing his cover as Tyr out of nowhere. Alright, they wanted Ragnarök to happen, but they are making it completely unnecessary. Bad writing. It seemed Ragnarök was of as much inconvinience to the people of Asgard as it was to Kratos. He comes to this epiphany that they will be better today. Wow, what a clap line, what a character moment, what a deep truth. But perhaps he should have thought one second about the consiquences of Ragnarök before summoning it. All he and his crew did was defend from Ragnarök, not use it.

And Tyr is not dead, you can find him doing a side mission. And note I'm not a expert on the story so I can be wrong about the stuff I wrote.

My own complains about the game is that the enemy has just to much Hit points. I played on "Give a balance experince" and it's just silly that you rushing towards a simple enemy and heavy R2 jump attack just does maybe 5-10% dmg. Second issue I had is there just to much puzzle to solve.
I had the same complains about the first god of war but replying it a second time those complains went away. But yeah the first 15-20 hours of the game was pretty boring, felt like you were just clearing trash mobs and solving a puzzle every minute.

My two cents in bold. Thanks for the discussion!