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Alistair said:
Soundwave said:

If you really look at it for the first two years or their product cycle or more the PS5 and XSX are basically just "Pro Pro" models of the PS4 and XO.

There's no exclusive games, even this fall's big gun Sony game is God Of War Ragnarok which is also on the PS4.

You just get better graphics on the newer hardware, which was basically the same thing the PS4 Pro and XBox One X did for PS4 and XBO.

Nintendo could do the same, even though the new hardware they have is intended to be a generational leap over the predecessor, they could just have it operate like a Pro model for a couple of years until they want to transition over more fully.

Most games have backwards compatibility because it takes 5+ years to make many games now. Rockstar made 5+ games for the PS3 but only ONE game for the PS4.

The PS5 is not at all similar to a PS4 Pro Pro. It has a MASSIVE increase in CPU power allowing for game engines that won't even boot up on the PS4. It has 100x faster storage than the PS4, again, allowing new engines that can't even load up on the PS4.

And GPU wise, yeah it is only twice as fast, but it is RDNA2 and has many features that the PS4 can't use. Not just ray tracing, but DirectX 12 level features. The GPU is the smallest improvement, mainly allowing double the frame rate of old PS4 Pro games until those features are put to use.

Of course the PS5 is a huge hardware upgrade over the PS4, just as this Drake chip likely will be a massive leap above the Tegra X1 that's in the current Switch.

But functionally to date, the PS5 (and XBSX) are basically just a PS4 Pro Pro to this point (this will change in time naturally). All the major games on the PS5 or XBSX are available on the older platform. 

And hey maybe there's nothing wrong with that. Both are selling very well, people seem OK with enjoying games with the higher fidelity even if they're not exclusive with the understanding at a later point in the generation they will start to get exclusive titles. 

If Nintendo ordered this next gen Switch chip back in say 2019 and maybe feel like they don't really need it just yet but it is wrapping up design production, and likely Nvidia expects to be paid and even possibly expects royalty payments per year for a certain number of units ... Nintendo might as well just release the new model and treat it like a premium version of the current Switch for a couple of years if they want. It wouldn't really be all that different from what the PS5 and XBSX have been for their first two years on market. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 23 September 2022