Do you see games as pieces of art? *potential spoilers*

[Spindel]

IcaroRibeiro said:

Spindel said:

Regarding your comment on music and movies I totally agree. Avengers Endgame isn’t art, it’s entertainment and I enjoy it as it is but I would never call it art. On the music side most is entertainment as well and should be enjoyed as such (this is especially true for pop/radio music).

Regarding books (fiction) I never said that all books have good stories and I guess I wasn’t really clear that I didn’t claim all fiction books are art. What I meant is that even books with bad stories have deeper and better storytelling than games. Games in my experience (I haven’t played them all) are simplistic.

Try The Last of Us 2, it has a simple plot but the storytelling goes deep. The screenplay is clever, think like an animated movie. 

Regarding the rest of your comment, you seem to place value in art, which is, with all due respect, a very shallow definition, reaching any kind of quality score is not requirement for art specially because art can't be scored in any arbitrary metric, when something cross a line of being just entertainment and becomes art? There are tons of music and movies that are now classics were regarded as nothing more than just entertainment when originally released. 

From my perspective people confuse culture and cultural value with art. 

Computer games are a part of our culture and have a cultural value, but most of them are not art.