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Otter said:
yo33331 said:

With seeing how Sony doesn't care about lifetime sales (when they get passed a certain point) and how they announce next gen console more than 2 full years earlier, not making pricecuts and not having full stock of their previous gen consoles (no marketing too at least there weren't any big adverts or campaigns for PS4 since 2019?) I can't see how PS5 will outsell PS4 unless they immediately start producing at least 3 times more units to meet the demand now. Because if they let this year slide it's becoming more and more difficult for the system to reach PS4 levels or even pass them.

The question now is will it pass the PS3 lifetime. Because at least this is a battle PS5 can actually still win.

Doesn't feel like there's any reason to believe PS5 will fall short of PS3 unless we're assuming the chip supply issue won't resolve itself til the end of the generation.

In regards to passing PS4 which is a tall order, it all depends on what the PS5's peak looks like and how long its on market for. At this point its just a guessing game. Sony remains concerned with getting consoles in people's hands, hence the $399 digital only console so we know they want to get many PS5's out there. What they're not going to do is cut into large profit margins just to hit specific sales milestones (cutting PS4's price just to hit 120m). Now they have their new focus on creating multimedia IPs, that may change their focus on hardware sales for better or for worse.

I'd also assume that later console revision like Slims and Pro will have bigger demand than before because:
1. PS5 is huge.

2. Performance profiles are more common nowadays and people are more familiarised with the benefit of 60fps modes/RT modes/Resolution modes etc.

3. Diminishing returns will lead to a longer generation.

  1. And shrinking due to strong competition from all sides (Xbox, PC and Switch) while it can't deliver due to low stocks.
  2. Still rare on console games. Just compare to what a PC game can set the games to look like or perform.
  3. True in general, but not this time due to raytracing becoming more and more prevalent while the RDNA2 architecture in the current gen consoles are pretty weak at that. Plus on the PC side, we're seeing an explosion of performance due to rising TDP rates, where even the mid-range GPUs alone consume about as much as an entire console. And on 4K screens and TV's, you really gonna see the difference...

In short, PS5 has several things stacked against itself which will prevent sales from reaching PS4 level over any extended period.