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JWeinCom said:
JRPGfan said:

Amber had 0% proof of abuse.
The pictures she had where all after useing makeup (to make her look brused up) + photoshop tools.
She claimed 2 identical pictures (same meta data, timestamps ect), with differnt photoshop levels, where 2 differnt pictures (taken differnt days).
This was proven false.
She claims police that showed up, looked at the scene, exsamed her and the house, lied. (they all said zero signs of abuse, or house damage).

Plus she had claimed bruses, and days after she would show up for some event (like a tv talkshow) and not have any bruses (even with little/no makeup on).
Theres actual proof of this stuff out there. She clearly lieing about all of it.

She was caught in so many proven lies, that you had a hard time believeing anything she said.

Then theres the malice aspect.

She was recorded (with her acknowlegdement) saying "go ahead johnny, tell the world, that I Johnny, a man, too am a victim of abuse. See how many believe you"
This was doing with a sarcastic tone, while doing evil little giggles, and taunting him in various ways.

Meanwhile her recording on him....
Was when he was passed out on drugs, she would like give him icecream cones, that would then melt in his hands and drip down his pants ect.
She took a video, of him being angry after a family death and a arrgument with amber, where he was drunk and banged a few kabinettes while getting a wine glass. Thats the "best proof" she had.

She also recorded a video, where in you hear JD almost OD'ing, and makeing odd survival like sounds (struggling, and clearly not in a good place).
What kind of Wife/GF does that? you almost died, I ll record it, and show it in a court case to shame you! that'll teach you.

Meanwhile theres texts of her taunting him, not to run away from her, like a coward.
(apparently, whenever she got too much, he would go live in other houses (they had like 7-8 homes)).

She admitted to writting the OP-ed about him, under oath (in this case), while previously saying she didnt write it, nor was it about him.
She admitted that it was about removeing his "power", ei. she wanted to damage his character/fame.

also while JD never admitted to useing violence against her, she admitted to punching/kicking/pushing/slapping him.

Like theres stuff about her saying "she didnt deck him, that wasnt a real punch, I hit you, but I didn't deck you".
Also apparently her sister was there, and she felt scared Johnny would push her down a stairs.. so she attacked him.
Because she heard rumors he did that to kate moss.....  (thats not even menting the champagne bottle, she threw at him that exploded right by his hand, and cut off part of one of his fingers)

Kate moss showed up at court, and said that never happend, he never pushed her down a stairs.

It just goes on and on.

Amber comes off looking like she has mental health issues.
Johnny, has drug issues, and apparntly runs away rather than fight back.
(apparently he and his mom got beat by their husband/father, so its just his "go to, way of dealing with issues")

This isnt about #metoo.
There isnt any me too's of Johnnys. No other gf/wifes/lovers have come forwards to claim he has a history of abuse. Actually they all come forwards to say the oppersite (that hes not that person, who does that).

You know who has a history of abuse?
Amber.

this is a good thing.
It proves that men can actually be victims too.
I think something like 1/3 of all domestic abuse victims (or more) are actually men. Meanwhile, society as a whole, doesnt really accept it.
Court is very biased towards men, when it comes to abuse cases. It takes alot more to prove, you got abused by a woman than otherway around.

People don't know what actual malice means in this context. 

It does not mean Amber was mean in general or a terrible person. It refers only to the specific defamatory statement, not her behavior in general. It means in regard to that specific statement, the person knew it was not true. Essentially as George Costanza says "Remember, it's not a lie, if you believe it."

If Amber believed herself to be a victim of abuse, regardless of whether that belief was justified, she should have won, unless the jury interpreted abuse to have a more specific connotation that implied specific acts by Johnny Depp. My intuition is that it's very possible that someone like Amber would perceive herself as a victim, even if no objective person would make the same judgment. Lots of people who are abusive perceive themselves as victims. I haven't heard the testimony, and honestly don't really care that much, so I can't say whether the jury came to the right conclusion or not.

If you would have watched the trial in full you would have known that the judge explained, under no uncertain terms, to the jury what malice meant. The jury had specific written instructions as well. And if that wasn't enough the lawyers reminded them of it. Insinuating that everyone but you knows the definition for malice in this context is very insulting. Maybe don't be rude to others before you know all the facts.

Last edited by tsogud - on 02 June 2022