Johnny Depp asked to resign from Fantastic Beasts series after court loss, #3 delayed

[DonFerrari]

JWeinCom said:

KiigelHeart said:

(1) “I spoke up against sexual violence — and faced our culture’s wrath. That has to change.” (2) “Then two years ago, I became a public figure representing domestic abuse, and I felt the full force of our culture’s wrath for women who speak out.” (3) “I had the rare vantage point of seeing, in real time, how institutions protect men accused of abuse.

Those are the statements found to be defamatory. I'd say it should be easy to establish actual malice if she got caught lying, even if she indeed felt she was a victim of abuse. Has "he/she believed his/her own lies" ever been a viable defence? Well maybe if she provided a psychologigal evaluation by doctors that she's out of touch with reality. 

I stand corrected then, the first statement specifically says sexual violence. Still a bit of wiggle room there, but much more concrete than "domestic abuse". The second one, I dunno. She became a figure representing abuse, whether she actually was abused or not. And, she may have seen how men accused of abuse were protected, even if they did not actually commit abuse. 

Again, actual malice is a specific legal term. It does not mean malicious as we would use it in ordinary life, it means that the person knew it was a lie or stated it with reckless disregard of its truth. If it can be proved she believed what she was saying, then the case would have been dismissed, regardless of whether she said it to hurt Depp. This is the argument Alex Jones is using in all of his lawsuits. You are allowed to say truthful statements, or statements that are true to you, to hurt someone who is a public figure. Defamation is an intentional tort which requires a particular state of mind, in the case of a public figure, to intentionally lie. If that was true to her, she lacked the state of mind, and could not be held liable. If Johnny Depp was a random person though, she could have been found liable either way. The standard is different for public figures.

Either the jury wasn't convinced that she believed it, or Heard did not want her lawyers to argue that she was not actually abused as we would commonly understand it. There may have been some arguments that could have worked but would have been more damaging to her overall than the actual verdict. They chose to have her maintain she was actually abused, which may have been economically the best decision but not the strongest legal argument.

If she used her lawyer and doctor to state she is mentally impaired that would be digging her career even further. If it was a homicide case perhaps one would claim it to avoid jail, but for a "paltry sum" of money don't think she would think of claiming that she was so out of touch with reality that she believed all that was true (she physically abuses JD but believes she is the victim of it, thinks was rapped without being, etc). JD Doctor claimed she had mental issues to which her Doctor claimed otherwise so it would be quite hard to go and reverse that by herself. Plus she committed perjury in several instances in her deposition (with consecutive contradictory claims in sequence) so would be hard to say she is sane and believed all that to be true. If you truly believe Trump is a rapist and genocide writing OP after OP while being famous as well would serve as defense?

As far as I know mentally disabled people have different sentence and let`s say in a case like this wouldn't be found guilty of defamation not because they believe it is true, but because they are incapable of properly understanding the consequences of their acts which isn't the case of Amber.