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sundin13 on 31 May 2022
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ConservagameR said:
KiigelHeart said:

What I don't understand is how they fucked up so badly. No waiting for backup, go in to distract and try to eliminate the active shooter is the protocol, why didn't they do it? 

edit. Looked into it and apparently first officers to arrive did try to stop the shooter so they acted as they should. They also were inside the school preventing further casualties outside the barricaded room.

After the shooter barricaded himself behind a door whoever was in charge made a terrible decision to wait and make a tactical breach. Hard to defend such decision, even if they could be absolutely certain everyone inside the room has been shot there could be a child bleeding-out etc. 

Just a gut feeling, but in a world of cancel culture, with a growing focus on police enforcement over the past decade, I tend to believe more and more, cops are no doubt thinking twice about every move they make, based more and more on cancel culture. You just don't really see that because the media only shows you a tiny fraction of what happens with the police day to day since they tend to focus on one event where the cops seemingly did something really stupid.

If the cops just rushed in and blew the shooter away, saving more lives, odds are they would end up getting smeared, just in another, worse way, where their career(s) may be quickly ended due to some other outrage.

Why didn't they wait and think it through more? Why didn't they wait for the professionals? They could have saved that troubled young mans life!

Of course, there's the scenario where they burst in, the shooter, ready, guns down 4 or 5 kids because of it, or heaven forbid one of the cops makes a mistake due to rushing and injures or kills one of the hostages. Kiss your life goodbye officer.

Again, why didn't they wait in this scenario? Fire them all!

This shouldn't be the case, since it's police enforcement, but how many people, cops or not, can sit there and honestly say they would've just burst in immediately, full well knowing what could go wrong and how that could ruin your own life, not to mention everything connected to you. Your family, the department, etc.

The deeper you go, the sadder the entire situation looks to be, at least to me.

First of all, outrage towards police murdering people is not cancel culture.

Second, no. There is no world in which police shooting a man actively murdering children would destroy their careers with outrage. That is dumb. Sure, if an officer murders a child, they would get blowback from that and rightly so, but if you are honestly coming to me like "Oh, boo hoo, the police are so vilified that they can't even murder a child without consequences anymore", fuck off maybe?

Third, in regards to how many people would have burst in immediately, I can't say what I would have done in that situation but that is why I'm not a cop. What I can tell you is that there were a whole host of parents ready to barge into the building, that were being arrested by the cops who were sitting outside like fucking cowards while children were being murdered.

So yeah, it's pretty sad all the way down, but if your takeaway is "I feel bad for the cops who arrested parents while children were being murdered", perhaps fix your head.