Pemalite said:
KratosLives said:
Regarding nato and what putin was asking for you, it's not a simple matter of saying it's not their right to onterfere or care what ukraine does. You need to understand the history of russia/ukraine/soviet, nate , history of past political events , actions of their past events, the right to concerns etc |
Irrelevant.
Ukraine is -entitled- to self determination, like any other independent nation.
So whatever Russia demands is redundant to that end.
CaptainExplosion said:
Well sanctions clearly aren't doing jack shit. That's like if all they gave Ed Gien for his crimes was a finger wag of shame. -_- |
War machines are very expensive to build, maintain and support.
Sanctions are definitely having an effect as Russia cannot afford the logistics to support it's crusade over the long term... Which is why it was super important for them to conquer Ukraine quickly and concisely... However, that didn't pan out.
That isn't to say Russia won't succeed... But it's going to take longer and be far more expensive than they originally anticipated.
Ironically, if Russia fails in it's conquering of Ukraine, it will be seen as having an ineffectual military, which is also incompetently managed... They likely can't afford to be perceived that way as it will have a massive detrimental effect to it's influence on the world stage.
KratosLives said:
Part of why they are tightning a grip on social media or news networks , is because of the propaganda and false media that have come from the other side. Debunked old footage, statements that were found out and proven to be not true have come from ukrain and western media, to paint a picture for the world to see, and it's all on youtube. So they ain't innocent themselves. If you are going to portray something doing it right. |
This is a fallacious line of thinking.
What makes free media ironically free... Is all perspectives are allowed to be showcased in all their glory regardless if you agree with it or not.
Media is essentially allowed to compete with each other.
What Russia is doing -is- propaganda, stifling of free speech and trying to steer the narrative.
In short, they built false mass media in order to support a dictatorship by peddling false information and fears.
What is happening is that regardless if you are conservative or progressive... Majority of the worlds media is against the invasion of Ukraine.. And have been condemning it consistently. - Which means it's bipartisan, not just politically, but in the media as well. Unless you live in Russia.
Only fringe individuals are trying to undermine all that by trying to make excuses to justify Russia's actions. (There is no excuse.)
Ryuu96 said:
Also on Sunday, prime minister Scott Morrison announced Australia would donate coal and further military equipment to Ukraine to “support the brave and courageous resistance”. |
We can do more. SCOMO is just marketing himself to try and look good once again... But really he is just spineless.
I would put my hand up to deploy there in an instant if I could... |
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