Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

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Ryuu96 said:

EpicRandy said:

Bullshits, if Russia were truly concerned they would have started negotiation before invading, they didn't. They don't fear NATO at their door, they fear Europeans life style at there door. They fear that the 11 millions Russian with close ties to Ukrainians start realizing how much crappier it is in Russia. That's why there can't be good faith negotiation from Russia, that's why they didn't try to resolve the issue peacefully, they only want Ukraine to be more miserable than Russia so they can keep their propaganda working in the long run.

Exactly this, Putin doesn't give a damn about NATO, he knows full well that NATO would never attack first, they won't even defend Ukraine militarily because NATO knows that would result in nuclear warfare, Putin isn't scared of NATO, he is scared of European lifestyles, democracy and freedom, he wants to keep that as far away from his borders as possible.

Oh he cares about nato. Nato in ukraine would mean usa at his door. Imagine a future war between usa/russia, that would automatically make ukraine involved and fight against russia.  What would the usa do if canada and russia had strong relations and russia made a presence in that territory? What makes you think putin cares about the lifestyles and cultures of ukraine?  The people of russia have access to all sorts of social media, they know what goes on around the world. Has there been some kind of revolt?