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CGI-Quality said:
KratosLives said:

Death stranding and tlou2 are still the top 2 in my opinion.

Those characters, while nice, are also clearly previous gen. No functioning vellus hairs, lower polycounts, and smaller hair planes. That Martha model is a step up in all regards.

What those games did do well, particularly LOU, were maps and shaders. They were nearly unmatched last gen for that reason, but we're about to enter a whole new stage with these! Aloy is another recent example of the "steps up" in characters. Martha is an Indie game for example and they pulled off better visuals than a lot of AAA titles. It's all about how you use your resources and not always about budget.

visualy what I have seen in those 2 games, I haven't seen surpassed graphically. Though I haven't played returnal or forbidden west.

Regarding martha , can you point me towards footage of something special?