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Mnementh said:
Jaicee said:

Yes, people really are hung up on that one subjective word I used in the OP to the point of, well, missing my main point even though I've subsequently clarified it multiple times now. This was supposed to be a celebratory thread, but because I'm the author instead I've offended everyone somehow again. That's how it fucking works. Everything I do goes to hell. I'm always in the minority opinion on everything. People look for any little teeny, tiny, nitpicky faults they can possibly find with everything I say and use them to ruin everything because they don't like me because there's something wrong with me.

If to make this any clearer, forget I ever used the term "icon", okay? It was a mistake. I should never have said that. I probably should never say anything really because I'm always going to be wrong. But please just try re-reading the OP again without that one word. I'll make it easier for you and retroactively delete it. I wish I could just delete this whole thread because all it is now is just yet another hit to my whole image and reputation around here because there weren't enough of those yet.

I was just trying to say that it sold more copies than the best-selling Tomb Raider, making it the best-selling heroine-focused game ever. That's all. Something factually non-disputable about which I'm still somehow absolutely wrong anyway. Nevermind. It's ruined.

EDIT: There. The offending line is gone now.

Sorry, I didn't wanted to attack your personality. You celebrated a milestone and added a opinion. I agreed on the milestone and had a different opinion. I think discussions like these are refreshing, iterating over differing point of views. You don't need to see my disagreement with your concrete stance as an disagreement on your existance and I am very sorry if you see it as such. Stand with your opinion. I actually talked about the term cultural icon in my last post, because I gathered that we have differing views on that and therefore to explain my understanding and concluding opinions. That doesn't deny your stance on it, I actually said: "because that term to me has a much deeper meaning". You see I actually pointed out my point of view, this doesn't negate yours.

Okay. I overreacted. I know. My frustration was obviously with more than just you and more than just this thread and more than just this forum and for that matter with more than just the internet. I'm clearly not a good communicator because it just seems like I have to be absolutely perfect or people in general won't see more than 1% of what I write and will latch onto that 1% and never let go and never forgive me and I can't measure up to that standard. I don't know how to converse with other people without my intent being constantly misread.

Anyway, look I guess you're probably right about what the dictionary definition implies and I really don't care enough to press forward with arguing to the contrary. I was just trying to say that this is obviously an historic development that I thought was worth mentioning. Wish I could go back and change the thread title too because that's likely part of the problem as well. Shouldn't have framed it as a contest. I chose the title as an attention-getter so people would actually read the thread.