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the-pi-guy said:
LurkerJ said:

PCR tests have almost 100% specificity, if you're symptomatic, tested positive, cleared the infection, your immunity against the virus is equal if not better than those who had triple vaccination and no prior infections. It absolutely tells you that you have immunity smh 

How are you fighting against misinformation by totally setting aside logic and forcing healthcare professionals including doctors to get the vaccine or risk losing their jobs despite the ample evidence presented by the CDC no less? 

PCR tests for genetic material for the virus. You will test positive before you develop immunity. It also doesn't tell you if you have immunity from previous infections. 

You have 3 different qualifying statements in your attempt to correct me. It seems to be pretty clear to you, that the PCR tests do not detect immunity. And really you are missing a fourth qualifier which is how long it's been since you've gotten sick.

You can assume you have some amount of immunity after the PCR test is positive and in the few months after you get better from being sick. 

>your immunity against the virus is equal if not better than those who had triple vaccination and no prior infections

It's important to keep in mind this is not a guarantee, it's an average.

How are you fighting against misinformation by totally setting aside logic and forcing healthcare professionals including doctors to get the vaccine or risk losing their jobs despite the ample evidence presented by the CDC no less? 

It's not setting aside logic. It's about understanding that public policy has to be more defensive than science calls for.

Very few healthcare professionals are losing their jobs. Frankly if they can't take a simple vaccine to better ensure protection for their patients, they shouldn't be in the medical field in the first place. Doctors that can't be bothered to wash their hands shouldn't be doctors. Doctors that can't be bothered to wear protective equipment while performing surgery, shouldn't be allowed to be surgeons.

Positive PCR and previous infections are positive markers for immunity, whether antibodies can be or can not be detected in the blood, it's irrelevant. Immunity doesn't only last for few months, your immune system response to covid19 can't be reduced to the level of the antibodies in the blood. Repeated infections isn't lack of immunity either. 

I am not sure what you're talking about when you say very few healthcare professionals are losing their jobs, it's 10% of the NHS staff who haven't had the vaccine yet, the NHS is the largest employer in the Europe, I don't care to crunch the numbers for someone who is running wild with false equivalences. Not following anti-septic measures during a surgery isn't similar to a doctor who just looked at the evidence and data and says "I just had covid19, the numbers actually tell me that I am just as protected and just as less likely to pass the infection as anyone who the vaccine 3 times, sweet!". Don't be intentionally silly just to win an argument, it's not a good colour.