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thismeintiel said:
Soundwave said:

It was OK. I liked it better than Dune, that put me to sleep. I think it's on par with Reloaded and Revolutions at least. 

It is high concept, but it's the most interesting Matrix since the original.

The problem with the Matrix franchise is the original movie is too good, it's still probably the best Hollywood blockbuster of the last 25 years (yes, sit down and shut up MCU fanatics). But when you peak that high and make an almost perfect film right off the bat that more or less tells a fully contained story you're going to be in tough.

Ghostbusters Afterlife is a "success" btw, it has more than doubled its production budget making it profitable and Sony already gave Jason Reitman the director the green light to do more Ghostbusters movies, so mission accomplished there. The point is to choose your budget wisely. 

No, Afterlife was not a success. Was it as big of a flop as 2016? No. Of course, that film had costly reshoots that ballooned the budget. Afterlife may have doubled it's production budget, but it still hasn't recovered its marketing budget. Considering a movie studio sees about 50% of the revenue from the box office take, it needs to make ~$215M-$225M just to break even. Keep in mind, it also failed to even match 2016's box office of $229M.

Also, I haven't seen where Sony announced that they greenlit a sequel. Just articles stating Jason Reitman has ideas for a sequel. I'm guessing it'll be another nostalgia bomb and then the last third recreates the Ghostbusters 2 ending.

FromDK said:

Me and my litlebrother are big fans.. we saw it yesterday (not together) And We like it alot..
Its (for us) insane that they came up with that story.. totally not what we expected.. a true master piece.
It's not a movie for actionfans.. offcourse it have action.. but today disney has much better computers and money to do that.. Its a movie for the intellectual.. a movie for the ones that think we are living in a world that have us all on a lock.. no freedom.. It's art mixed with reality mixed with "the Matrix idea"

This is only offfcourse only IMO... but just like I dident understand how anybody could like Starwars 7-9.. I don't understand why this movei gets so much hate..? Are all become programs?

You don't understand how people could like TLJ, yet used the exact same argument people used to defend that movie? People said that it was for the intellectuals and others just didn't get it.

If your first defense of a movie is people are dumb and didn't get it, you don't have much of a defense. Maybe people did get it, but still hate it?

Personally, I'm glad it's flopping, like a lot of cash grabs have been lately. Maybe it'll force Hollywood to stop getting by on nostalgia and mediocre hero movies alone.

Ghostbusters didn't have a huge marketing budget, the VOD/home video/TV/streaming revenue the movie will more than cover the marketing costs and they did have some merchandising and product promotion in the film to offset costs too. And also all this during COVID, so you have to factor in Sony is looking at a sequel that releases post-COVID.

‘Ghostbusters: Afterlife’s Jason Reitman & Gil Kenan Sign Sony Pact – Deadline

Sony signed a deal with the Ghostbusters Afterlife writer + director for more movies after they saw the box office for Afterlife, which is basically industry code for "we want more Ghostbusters, but the director and writer want a guarantee we'll at least give a first look to some of their other projects". But there's no way Sony signs this deal if they were unhappy with Ghostbusters Afterlife and/or didn't want a sequel. 

This is the deal you sign with a studio when you've had a success as a director and/or writer in Hollywood, they get a sequel to a movie they want and you get maybe another passion project you have on the side greenlit or at least moved into first look status. 

It's easy to say "Hollywood should make more original stuff!" when it's not you financing it with your own money, lol, if that was the case, you probably would want to some guarantee there's a built in audience so you have a better chance of seeing your money come back.

Last edited by Soundwave - on 26 December 2021