Xbox One; was it a successful console?

[EricHiggin]

Azzanation said:

EricHiggin said:

Tesla and the way of the future disagree. Don't want to be left in the past right? Some extra's come as standard depending on the company as well.

If you buy the XB Elite Controller, and find it's not worth it, you've lost over $100. If you bought the XB1 and didn't find Kinect of use, you lost $100.

If you buy the PS5, and you choose to pay the extra $10 for DS features in a game, if you find its not worth it, you've only lost $10.

What's worse, losing $10 or losing $100? What's more consumer friendly of the two?

If you're a console gamer, GP requires an XB, which doesn't automatically come with XB. It's extra software for the full experience.

If you're a console gamer, DS capabilities require a PS5, which doesn't automatically come with PS5. It's extra software for the full experience.

Extra software is extra software even though you require the hardware to run it.

Their is a clear difference between owning something and it works as advertised than buying something as an optional extra.

Whats more anti consumer is if you pay for a piece of hardware and now have to pay a fee to use that hardware.

If you went out to buy the Elite Controller, it works as intended. If the owner doesn't like it than they can return it. Meaning you lose $0.

GP is an option and will always be an option. Your Xbox will work as intended without GP. 

The problem i have is that the DS features wont work on some games without a fee. The big difference here is that you own the hardware and features and a company puts it behind a pay wall on some games. GP you don't own, it does not come with the console.

Whats worse, losing $10 or losing $0. The answer is right their.

Since when are consumers unable to return PS products and only XB products? You can't return the PS5 if you don't like the DS situation?

Wouldn't that mean both lose $0? Did I find the right answer, or was this another one just lying around?

So selling any and all upgrades, separate, for exorbitant fee's that "the average user" can't afford, like the XB Elite Controller, is less anti consumer?

Can't wait for next gen.. where the casuals and "the average user" won't be able to afford to join in at all due to everything being extra.

GP, as an extra option, offers "the full XB experience", but the $500 monster XBSX doesn't. 

Well if that's a good thing, then:

DS features, are an extra option, beyond the $500 PS5, if you want the full experience.

It's up to the consumer to decide how much of the experience they want to pay for either way, correct? If they can pay for it at all that is..

Maybe after the XB1 Kinect fiasco, MS should still be selling it separately for unaffordable prices. Perhaps the answer was right there all along..