Xbox One; was it a successful console?

[EricHiggin]

Azzanation said:

EricHiggin said:

Some of them give you the upgraded controller free with the console. Some of them offer faster (and more) third party storage for the same price or less. Some try to force 'extras' with the console, even if the consumers don't want it, adding hundred(s) of dollars to the cost.

I thought all that mattered was the individuals personal outlook. Also, how can you know it didn't fail MS?

Dude.. i cant believe you are still trying to use the Elite Controller as your example, its completely different. Its a premium controller that's sold separately with the console. If you want the controller you have to pay extra for it, its too expensive for the average user. You can buy it bundled however the price of the bundle goes up because its expensive. Imagine if you brought an Elite controller and Xbox than charges you a fee to use its features for some games, thats what Sony is doing with the DS.

Your comparison is like if you went out to buy a car and you brought the V6 model, than complain that the V8 should of been the standard and at no extra cost. The Elite Controller is the V8 in this sense. The car company doesn't charge you extra to use the extra 2 cylinders after you already brought the V8 model.

And I can't believe it's not butter...

It's more like how GP is so important and crucial, so much so that by having just GP, it supposedly gives you the "full XB experience" even though you don't have to have the XB console.

Yet imagine if when you buy the console, even the most powerful monster, but you don't automatically get GP with it. You're only getting a fraction of the full experience for top dollar on the top model. You have to pay an extra fee to use its features for those GP games. That's what MS is doing.