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EricHiggin on 21 September 2021
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Azzanation said:
EricHiggin said:

XBSX sales might be kept under wraps because to put those numbers out without XBSS numbers it'll immediately raise a red flag.

Wouldn't be surprising to find out that sales are like PS4 to Pro were (at least at one point) at 5:1 or something like that, which MS likely wouldn't want people seeing because that really takes away from the most powerful console marketing. If the best of the best console is selling poorly compared to the weak console that wouldn't look strong to consumers and could also lead to investors wondering why waste time and money with a high end console (other than for servers).

The high end model has its merits though so do you really want to open that can of worms and have to explain all the reasons why without negatively impacting your present marketing situation in any way? Probably not.

You honestly believe what you are saying? You think MS are afraid of showing figures because another one of their products might be doing too well, overshadowing their flagship console? Really think about this for a second. If that was the case, than MS would not have made the Series S. Low priced models are estimated to sell more than higher priced models, that goes with almost any business, however i don't believe the S has sold more than the X. 

The Series X is sold out, regardless if the Series S is outselling the X or the other way around. Both consoles are sold to do the same thing. Look at the mobile phone market, you think Apple cares that you brought the low priced model? As long as you buy their phones, they simply don't care. There are no red flags when you have a business model where one product has sold out. Also Series S consoles are not sold out, you can buy one almost anywhere, however you cannot find a Series X. Yes Sculpers are part of the blame just like the PS5. So if the X has sold out and the S hasn't, than it means two things, the X is more popular, throwing away your argument of the S might be doing better, or MS made more S units than the X, showcasing the confidence that they want the S to sell really well too.

It's not that hard for MS to announce the X/S sales figures as one and not separately. But clearly they have moved past this.

I do believe this. Why didn't MS show off the XBSS first? Why did they market XBSX hardcore for like 6 months before more quietly announcing XBSS closer to launch? Was MS trying to keep it out of the spotlight? Were they unsure about whether or not they even wanted to sell Lockhart as some articles suggested at that time?

When you take into account how much XBSX hardware has to go towards servers, obviously that takes away from it's consumer stock.

When you take manufacturing into account, especially the APU's, you can't make anywhere near the same amount of large chip dies for the XBSX.

The APU manufacturer has been booked solid and odds are that any openings get split between MS and PS if they even get any extra at all vs others.

MS couldn't sell as many XBSX's as they can XBSS's if they wanted to, assuming there was reasonable demand for the XBSS, which there does seem to be.

I also stated extremely early on that I thought replacing the XB1X with next gen hardware would be a smart move based on the MS roadmap at that time. Most people thought it was a crazy idea and would crash and burn or that it was flat out stupid and useless. Looks to be working pretty good right now doesn't it? Another gen like PS4 vs XB1 would not have been anywhere near as interesting don't you think?

Last edited by EricHiggin - on 21 September 2021