| numberwang said: Here is the table with the death toll for both groups vaxxed vs. placebo from the appendix. As you can see, there were 0 "covid-deaths" in the vaccinated and 1 "covid-pneumonia-death". There were 2 "covid-deaths" in the placebo group. On the other hand, there was a strange cluster of 9 deaths in the cardiovascular field overall among the vaccinated but only 2 (or 3) in the placebo group.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1.full-text |
And why do you think the researchers did not bring up any concerns about these 9 apparent "heart related" clustered deaths in the vaccinated group that weren't seen in the control group? My guess would be that when you have two groups of 20,000 and you have 15 deaths in each that you are going to get random differences like this because you don't have enough people dying to make statistically significant conclusions. In the control group you had 2 die from myocardial infarction and 2 die from multiple organ disfunction syndrome that didn't die in the vaccinated group but I would never use that to claim that the vaccine protects against those two conditions.
Now let's take a worst case scenario: all 9 heart related deaths were due to the vaccine. So that's 0.045% of people dying from heart related problems when vaccinated. That's difficult to make conclusions about in a group of 20,000 but we have 164m fully vaccinated people in the US so if this is real we would expect to have 70,000 excess deaths from Heart related issues in the last 6 months. Do you see any evidence for that being the case?
Also this is making the assumption that all those heart related deaths will be in excess in the vaccinated group even though that wasn't the case in the study we're looking at since both groups had the same amount of total deaths so there's no real reason to think that these heart related deaths are occurring in excess to the number you'd usually expect in a random group of 20,000 people over 6 months.
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