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sundin13 on 24 July 2021
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Mr Puggsly said:
sundin13 said:

I treat incidents that aren't appropriately handled, because cops protect cops, as misdeeds by the Policing system. No action is simply an individual action without proper accountability.

As for the consequences of this mistrust in police, I agree that it may cause some negative repercussions, but again, I put the blame for this on the Policing system. They must act to earn the trust of the people they serve by accepting accountability, not stand against it and complain about how they aren't just handed more money and power. I can't support a governmental system that holds the people hostage by threatening inaction as a response to accountability, and if you are truly suspicious of government power, I can't imagine that such a thing would go over well with you either, yet you seem to regard this abuse as a natural consequence and not as the abuse of power it is.

I really think it depends on the situation. Cops aren't always defending cops.

"I can't support a governmental system that holds the people hostage by threatening inaction as a response to accountability" I'm glad you said this because its actually the cities that generally reduce role of law enforcement. Essentially criminals are given more freedom in left leaning cities and the police get to do less.

I feel you've got a anti police agenda going. While I consider myself somewhere in the middle. But I think we both agree, the anti police movement has hurt communities more than actual police officers.

Cops protecting cops is the general rule, be it through their silence in the face of misconduct (ie Blue wall of silence), or a reliance on collective power to avoid accountability (ie Police Unions). As the unions represent the collective will of the workers (officers), when the Union acts to aid an officer in avoiding accountability it can be said that this action was done through the power of the whole force (or at least the majority). The police have the power to change this. The fact they haven't shows they don't want to.