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Kakadu18 on 12 July 2021
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yo33331 said:

Okay there is no point in arguing you are here only nintendo fans and all of you are defending the switch obviously ..
I am not bitching switch's fate or something like that and I haven't been one from those who said year after year the switch will fall of a cliff.
I am just saying that In my opinion 2020/2021 is the peak period for the system and the 2022 is starting it's downfall. And I think that because of several factors (the age of the system, the saturation point, the new consoles with full stock for next year, and the price ) Switch will drop to around 15M units. This is my prediction, that's it. We will see the answer of this by next year. There is no point in arguing now. If it is so special and so home and handheld then it have to do Wii + DS numbers which is equal to 255M. Come on I dear you. Cuz if many people buy it for home use and many other for handheld it have to at least beat the DS numbers right ? It won't even manage to do that let alone 255M.

curl-6 said:

You may not be impressed and that's fair enough, but it is not "very close" really; Switch has over 6 times as much useable RAM and GPU technology a decade more modern. Obviously as a device that has to function as a portable it cannot offer a generational jump in raw power but the Switch's performance as a console is still significantly ahead of PS3 and 360.

Take Crysis. Switch compared to PS3/360 has a higher resolution, higher framerate, more foliage, better effects work for water, motion blur, and depth of field, plus the addition of SVOGI which is a form of ray traced global illumination. The gap over PS3/360 is quite clear.

Crysis is one game. I've seen many many games on switch and watched most of the analysis on digital foundry and it's not good.

Yes it has some games ported that are even not available on the PS3 and 360 however they are not great. Bad framerates, cutting corners with graphics with resolutions. It's bad in comparison to home console like PS4/PS5/XBOX.

That's why I am saying it's more close to PS3 and 360 than the next console. therefore switch is not just 1 generation behind. graphical and in performance.

It's almost 2 generations behind.

I am not doubting it's technology or that it has more ram.

Just the final execution is more like PS3 on the go than PS4 or xbox.

Kakadu18 said:

Bold: alot of people apparently. All statistics we have, that other people here already showed you point to many people are playing docked a significant part of the time.

'Who would do what I wouldn't' is your argument. You're very clever.

Yes I am clever. It's not only me, I've worked in a store and many many people bought the home consoles for home use, and almost all of switch buyers bough it because they will be playing it in handheld. The statistic is only one, research from 2017. The start of the console life, when normally the most buyers are hardcore fans. For every console not only switch. Always the first 1 to 2 years majority of the buyers are it's die hard hardcore fans and gamers.

Let Nintendo do one new research now and show it. Then we will talk.

SKMBlake said:

Well according to this logic, the PS4 Pro would be the best selling PS4 since launch, but it isn't, the PS4 Pro + Slim sales were like 1/4 or even 1/5 for the PS4 Pro.

But yes, people are more willing to buy the full PS5 rather than the PS5 DE, and the Series X rather than the Series S

Well now there is a difference. The PS4 pro were only giving PS4 users a little higher resolution nothing more. And also for that experience you are required to have 4K TV.

Also how do you know what is the ratio to slim and pro ? there were only 1 statistic back from 2017. PS4 sold 50M since then.

About the PS5 and XBOX, yes, most people are buying the expensives models. Of course always will have people that will just buy the base model. But those with the full package are often way more.

Otter said:

Does PS5 have Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Pokemon, Breath of the Wild?

Anecdotally I know way more people who use the Switch as fun casual gaming device with friends, than those who use it primarily as a portable. Nintendo also puts a heavy emphasis on this in their marketing. Trying to deduce the proportion of gamers who buy it for portability based on its spec doesn't really get you anywhere. In real life no cares that Mario Kart 8 is not in 4k. 

No it, does not have them.

Wii U had them and was home console only. And how many people bough it ? how many ? not even 14M. Pathetic ..

Just because some people buy the switch and decide to use it's extra ability as a home console sometimes, doesn't mean that the people have bought it specifically for this. But if it couldn't do handheld than many many users would not buy it. That's like to say that people buys smartphones because to watch videos or browse the internet. They just use those extras because they are there. But even if they were not they would buy it again. Because they need it's primary function - phone.

WiiU had an endless array of problems that led to it's failure, being a home console is not one of them.