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SvennoJ said:
smroadkill15 said:

While those QoL features may not get the attention of the general public, Game Pass certainly will and it's very much in the process of becoming mainstream.

If I show my friends, who are average gamers, how Xbox has these great features like boosting select games to 60FPS, smart delivery, superior BC with 3 generations, quick resume, Game Pass, and the more powerful hardware, you don't think that would sway them towards getting one? Then you say, "These games you can't play anywhere else." Right now, there are 4 actual ps5 exclusives and a tech demo. Demon Souls and Returnal are great games, but lets not act like these are big sellers, and Godfall and Destruction Allstars aren't exactly knocking anyone's socks off. The PS5 is selling out everywhere mainly by name brand alone.

Neither console has any system seller exclusives and we likely won't see any until Halo and God of War release. Rachet and Clank could potentially, but that series has never really been known as a system seller. If my friends are really into games like Returnal and Demon Souls, then I would absolutely recommend the Ps5, but if they really don't care and those kinds of games, then I think Xbox is more appealing. 

True, but how did Sony and Nintendo get that name brand... The expectation is that those exclusives will come, while with XBox that's much less. People aren't buying PS5 only for Returnal or Demons Souls.

60 fps, casuals don't care
Smart delivery, general gamer doesn't care, as long as it gets there
(most people happily watched 4:3 SD tv stretched to 16:9 HD, do you think they care about smart delivery)
Superior BC, general gamer wants to play the latest hot thing
Quick resume, general gamer doesn't care for those extra few seconds
Game Pass, yep that's one that could sway people depending on whether the games they want to play are on there
More powerful hardware, switch sells best...

So basically it's gamepass to make the difference. The question is how appealing is it really. As most gamers only play a few games a lot. Buying them is cheaper in the long run. And gamepass is basically tied to the console library, it's the exclusives that make the difference. If someone wants to play the next Spiderman or God of War game, then having access to a 1000 other games on gamepass is not going to make any difference. Just like when someone wants to play Halo, no QOL feature of free games list on PS4 or Switch are going to make any difference.

Sony and Nintendo have brand name appeal for a reason, MS has it to a lesser extent. MS doesn't get the benefit of the doubt like Sony does, and for obvious reasons, but once those Xbox 1st party games start dropping people will notice, and combine that with Game Pass? Could be huge for Xbox sales. I already stated how those QoL features will hardly be noticed by the general public, but I disagree with the statement about casuals not caring about these features. It's more so not knowing about them because some of these features like 60FPS boost is a big deal and quick resume is one of the most 'next gen' features any of these consoles have. 

Now you arguing how appealing Game Pass is when it has 20 something million subscribers and growing? I don't think you can make a compelling argument without reaching and using your own bias to downplay it, when in fact it is really appealing and the numbers speak for themselves.