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curl-6 said:
ice said:

I will reinstate that sub services take a while to build up, Gamepass on Xbox One didn't have the day 1 3rd party releases and MS's first party didn't have the studios to support such a service, things are vastly different now. As for the series S, Xbox Series X was always selling more/in demand even before it became readily available. I'm not claiming it is or isn't selling xboxes, I'm making the stance that we simply do not know either way but regardless I do agree that time will eventually give us the answer.  

4 years is plenty of time for a service to establish itself. I remain certain that GP would've eased Xbone's decline and have the Series S sold out if was really the killer app it's claimed to be.

I'm also supremely confident that come 2023 Xbox Series will still be getting easily and decisively outsold by PS5.

lol Well thanks for stating the obvious there, doesn't mean that Xbox series can't outsell the xbox one and regain some market share? 

You said Gamepass hasn't done anything to boost Xbox's sales, we all know Playstation is going to sell better. Unlike Nintendo and MS (to lesser degree) they never had a flop home console. Idk How we are making this judgement call 6 months in is literally my point.

But we are going into circles so...

You believe Gamepass is a nonfactor is sales

I believe we can't tell yet either way

/End