4k Switch just the beginning - 45 million units sold next FY

[kirby007]

RolStoppable said:

Pemalite said:

No. You are delving into the goal post shifting logical fallacy.

You original argument was thus... "No one wants a dedicated gaming device that can make phone calls".
The types of games are thus irrelevant to that argument.

Literally BILLIONS of people around the world are spending BILLIONS of dollars on Android/iOS games, clearly lots of people love to use a device that "can make phone calls" as a gaming device... Making your original argument factually false.

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Then you also have the likes of Pokemon Go, Sky: Children of Light, Rayman Legends, Hearthstone, Machinarium, Ark: Survival Evolved, Terraria and I can keep listing more... But I think I have made my point and demolished your argument now.

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Perhaps you might have missed the mobile gaming revolution, but I can assure you... It's definitely here, definitely massive, definitely the largest gaming segment.. And people definitely do (happily) use their "Cordless telecommunications device" as a gaming device.

You complain about shifting the goalposts, yet it's the only thing you can do to construct a counter-argument. You turn "dedicated gaming device" into "device that can make phone calls being used for gaming", but nobody here should have to explain it to you in detail that these are two very different things.

You didn't demolish his argument because your entire post is based on building a strawman. Yes, you did demolish this strawman, but that will only look good in the eyes of those observers who can't tell what has happened here.

Mandalore76's expansion of the argument that consoles and phones are two completely different markets is correct as well. That too is owed to the significant difference between a dedicated gaming device and a phone that is being used for gaming. People who buy a dedicated gaming device know exactly that they want to play games and as such are willing to pay upfront for games, whereas people who buy phones don't have gaming as a priority and as such are not willing to pay for games upfront. That is why phones couldn't kill handheld consoles, because the fundamentally necessary different payment models to make game development viable result in very different feels for the games themselves. Consequently, mobile gaming isn't being taken seriously on gaming forums, because it fails to provide reasons why it should be taken seriously. Mobile gaming is generating big bucks since over a decade, but not at any point did it manage to lead to a community on this website for the purpose of discussing mobile games despite being assigned with a dedicated subforum for an extended period of time.

Back to the topic of the viability of a gaming phone, it has none. But that's not surprising and kirby007 knows it all too well, hence why he made this thread.

My S21 can play BOTW id say its very viable