Non-Americans Stunned By American Health Care Costs

[sundin13]

Mr Puggsly said:

sundin13 said:

Again, if you want to see what Biden promised, look at what he said, not what you assume he said.

As for whether "the compromise was shit" with Obamacare, you have still provided no evidence of that. The trajectory of health care spending didn't significantly change from Obamacare, however if you look at the size of the uninsured population, it dropped from about 17% when the healthcare exchanges were opened to about 11% when Trump took office. In other words, the costs were virtually unchanged on the whole, while we were able to ensure about 1/3 of the uninsured population. That seems like a solid "compromise" to me.

Many got insured with underwhelming insurance options because it was either dirt cheap FOR SOME and for a period required. It wasn't always considered great insurance by the way. There was actually a massive penalty/tax for not getting healthcare, but that was removed during the Trump administration and that is something people on both sides were happy with.

But again, a big problem was it raised the costs of premiums and that's partly because people had to cover for this getting it for free or for those who qualified for a big subsidy.

Two things can be true at the same. You can say Obama care was great because it got more people covered. But at the same time it also fucked a lot or normal working people not necessarily making much. I was affected first hand and cancelled my insurance at the time because of it.

I've presented evidence that health care costs did not skyrocket after Obamacare. You have presented no evidence in your rebuttal. 

Unless you present evidence, I see no reason to continue this conversation.