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Jumpin said:
curl-6 said:

While Discovery can definitley be a little cringey at times, for me that comes from jokes that don't quite land or attempts to be quirky, I didn't find it any more politically overt than previous series of Star Trek.

And yeah that episode of Enterprise didn't sit right with me either, letting a whole sentient species die while a cure is on hand. Came across as very morally questionable.

I am not even sure why this is up for debate. The original Star Trek is easily the most socially progressive TV show in history. The guy above is upset that the newer shows take things to new extremes, while the original show took things to old extremes. That's a fairly consistent use of the license, that means the recent ones are operating within the spirit of Star Trek. He thinks the new stuff is unnatural while the older Star Trek is natural, this is simply because society has advanced. Similarly, much of what feels unnatural to conservatives today is going to be natural to conservatives 50 years from now.

That's an interesting point; an interracial kiss as seen in the original series was probably seen as very offputting to many viewers in the 1960s, just as much as any of the "political/woke" content in Discovery. Plus DS9 had a black captain and a female first officer in the early 90s, Voyager had a female captain and a native American first officer in the mid to late 90s, etc.

Star Trek has always been "woke".

Last edited by curl-6 - on 19 January 2021