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LurkerJ on 15 January 2021
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JRPGfan said:
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:

Can we call the new variant "UK virus"?

UK and Southafrican strains are "bad" because 1 is more infectious (55-70% ) (UK version)
and the South African version makes younger people more sick as well (not just the elderly).

The WORST version though, is the new Brazillian mutation.

This one, is so differnt from the regular old covid19 we had last year, that people that "should be immune" because they had covid already, are getting sick again. (this also suggest the current vaccine wont work against this mutaton).  (UK have already done the senseable thing, and shut down all incomeing traffic from south america/brazil, and honesty europe should do the same (the sooner the better))

It's probably already here. These mutations need to infect a sizable number of people before they're "discovered".

If a muation happens and renders all vaccines useless, the only solution left would be a world-wide proper lockdown, you promise people equal money and food and shelter for a month or two, countries that succeed in break free can go back to "normal" earlier than the rest and get to choose when to re-open their borders and how.

Mind you, we don't know know if the current vaccines can prevent spreading of the infections or not in the first place, it's still being studied.

"People who get sick and recover from Covid-19 produce a ton of these more-specialized IgA antibodies. Because IgA antibodies occupy the same respiratory tract surfaces involved in transmitting SARS-CoV-2, we could reasonably expect that people who recover from Covid-19 aren’t spreading the virus any more. (Granted, this may also depend on how much of the virus that person was exposed to.)

But we don’t know if people who have IgG antibodies from the vaccine are stopping the virus in our respiratory tracts in the same way. And even if we did, scientists still don’t know how much of the SARS-CoV-2 virus it takes to cause a new infection. So even if we understood how well a vaccine worked to prevent a virus from replicating along the upper respiratory tract, it’d be extremely difficult to tell if that would mean a person couldn’t transmit the disease."

https://qz.com/1954762/can-you-spread-covid-19-if-you-get-the-vaccine/

Before approving the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, the FDA asked the vaccine manufacturers only whether their products protect people from COVID-19 symptoms. They didn't ask if the vaccines stop people who've been vaccinated from nevertheless spreading the virus to others. The emergency authorizations by the FDA that have allowed distribution of the two new vaccines cite only their ability to keep you — the person vaccinated — from becoming severely sick with COVID-19.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/12/956051995/why-you-should-still-wear-a-mask-and-avoid-crowds-after-getting-the-covid-19-vac

Last edited by LurkerJ - on 15 January 2021