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Otter on 28 December 2020
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Wyrdness said:
Otter said:

Decline and doom are not the same lol

PS3 and PS4 have sold almost the same amount, that decline is not big. At most PS3 will gain a 10% lifetime advantage over the PS4. PS5 breaking sales records in the worlds biggest markets will ensure most Japanese games continue to priotise it as a platform since most Japanese games require western markets to make big bucks.

People are being way to hasty with writing PS5 off in Japan, comparing it to Wii U etc. It's year 1 line up is far more Japanese centric than PS4''s and it sales right now can't really be attributed to anything but sony undersupplying the region, as oppose to skipping it altogether like they did with PS4 during its holiday launch. Of course I think Switch will really put a roof on what PS5 can achieve, but at this moment in time, we don't know whether that roof is 9m LT or something much worse, like 5m

You're taking the doomed comment someone made too literally PS4 declined with better support it got all of the major third party titles in Japan from DQ, MH, FF etc... the shouldn't be a decline at all the fact that it decline highlights the is a serious issue in the region for them this was a brand that moved 20m units in the region at one point and no most Japanese games require a good market at home to be secure as the west is only kind to a select group of Japanese developers look at Disgaea 6 for reference they've dropped PS4 entirely in the west despite it having the largest userbase at the moment.

People writing off the PS5 in the region is understandable because right now if the likes of MH and DQ can't stop the decline what can Sony realistically pull out? When Nintendo were in trouble they sent out Splatoon which carried the WiiU in Japan while Sony's offering tend to be more appealing to western gamers and it's clear now it's a problem only Sony themselves can sort out and so far they haven't shown much in the way of dealing with it. PS5's first test comes in three months when MHR lands on Switch and at this point we know full well DQXII will be on Switch at this point with a non Switch version being up in the air right now

But still you're conflating decline with doom or some equivalent. If not, why does a decline equate to a write off? Was the 3DS a write off because it didn't perform to DS numbers? Through looking at the last 2 generations of playstation hardware, we can see the general ballpark Sony are working within (ps3 10m, PS4- 9m). Even the best selling dedicated home console of the last 2 generations (wii) only did 12m in Japan, so looking as far back as playstation1 to draw up expectations for PS5 doesn't make any sense. My reference point was people comparing PS5 to Wii U (3m) based off current supply constraint sales, it all just seems way to hasty and dramatic.