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curl-6 on 18 December 2020
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EricHiggin said:
curl-6 said:

NZ has done a much better job than the vast majority of other countries, that's a fact, their cases have been in the single digits for two months, how many countries can claim that?

The expert consensus is that masks help, and even if they only partially helped, you'd be crazy to avoid such a tiny inconvenience when it can save lives.

That wasn't the point. The media, and some politicians, people with a lot of power, made NZ out to be perfection, when that wasn't the case. Not only is perfect an idiotic thing to proclaim to begin with, because nothing is, but to then try and make it seem like further outbreaks were no big deal, just shows they don't really care all that much about the illness and the people. Just need a headline that fits the script. If you want people's trust, you can't sellout.

Problem here is similar to the, how many people dying from an illness is acceptable question? How far should individuals go to try and save everyone else? The truth is we could all do a lot more to make the world a much safer place, but it would be a ton of minor things that people just won't do. Many already feel they don't have enough free time and have too many headaches, so asking more only really works if it's going to make a significant difference.

Talk is cheap unfortunately. The less of a connection someone has to you, the less they will care about you. Expecting everyone to care equally about everyone else in the world isn't realistic. Especially when some individuals or groups of them, are painted/seen as lesser morally than others, whether it's true or not. When more than a few people become excited enough to spread their joy/hope for an illness taking people down for good, well, beats me how you convince some others to care as well.

You are, perhaps intentionally, overcomplicating this.

NZ did one of the best jobs of any country in the world of handling COVID-19. Masks work, and acting as though disease control during a pandemic is authoritarianism is ridiculous.