Right and left wing games

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Dante9 said:

Mnementh said:

Oliver North isn't just any military dude, he is one of the key figures in the Iran-Contra affair. As that is one of the biggest foreign politics blunders of the second half of the last century, I would say that is pretty much a very sensitive political topic. Having business with Oliver North back then is as shady as having some with Epstein in the past few years. It was discussion how much the Reagan-administration was involved in the deal, but one thing is pretty clear: Oliver North was involved.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_North

As for Americas Army: I directly said it doesn't fit into right or left wing scheme. Because as much as that might surprise you, a lot of politic issues don't directly fit into dems vs. reps or right vs. left wing. But propaganda for the american military and their causes is clearly political.

Yup, North was a shady character in that regard. Does that mean that we should pretend he did not exist, when making a war game set in the eighties? What's your point here? Do you think the developers are trying to push some kind of agenda by having North in the game?

America's Army is military propaganda, yes, but that's a fringe phenomenon. I can't think of any other faction than the military that has to toot their own horn like this. Seems pretty harmless, albeit political in the sense that they want to justify their existence and promote recruitment. It's not like, say, a Dark Souls character suddenly lecturing you about the need for military funding. Something comparable to that has sometimes popped up from the left in certain games.

This is the second time you've vaguely gestured at the idea of left wing politics being lectured to you in games so now I'm curious. What left wing idea was lectured to you in what game? Only thing I can think of that is usually thought of in that light is when minority characters (either by race, sexual orientation, or gender) are included in a game, but that's not really what I would think of as a lecture since they are usually just existing. What games are stopping the story to lecture you about the need for an improved social safety net or how the electoral college is bullshit because it goes against the will of the popular vote?