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sales2099 said:
LivingMetal said:

How do you know that casuals don't care?  Look how well the Switch has already outsold the Xbox One lifetime sales while outselling both the PS4 and Xbox One in recent sales.  One could reasonably attest that the Switch backward compatibility was one of the driving factors while the Xbox One backward compatibility was not.  It's reasonable.  Then you factor in that the PS4 has virtually no backward compatibility which logically in turn paints a more accurate picture of the Xbox One backward compatibility effectiveness or lack there of.  So I'm I calling the Switch a casual console?  No.  But using YOUR logic and the previously reasonable stated points, the Switch is more hardcore than the Xbox.  Remember, I'm not claiming that.  I'm using your logic in conjunction with FACTS.  And you talk about fallacy?  Well, it appears that it certainly applies to your attempt of an argument as now shown to all whether you care to acknowledge it or not.  Especially when you attempt these tactics:

And there are hardcores/enthusiasts who while appreciate the choice of backwards compatibility, may not have that option/feature high on their list of priorities such as..... you?  Part of your problem is that you're painting such an assumed broad stroke that you think applies to the preconceived groups you've already self-established. And I've never faulted anyone for having a console preference.  But it's "enthusiasts" such as yourself that have taken such a narrow view that when the bigger picture is presented (to include Nintendo) your argument so... falls... apart.

Look, backwards compatibility was never a massive system seller. Never has, never will be, apart from a minor bump from enthusiasts. It’s just nice to have just in case. Also Nintendo is a special case with their 1st party being games that Sony or MS can never replicate. Using them in a PS vs Xbox argument is shaky.

But I digress, if I made the case that BC is a essential system seller then I take that back. What it is good for is preserving our games, having the option to access them, and carry them forward (just like smart phone data and PC games). 

Whoa, Whoa. Hold up. Hasn't like 50% of your arguments with me been about how important Backwards Compatibility is and how both it and GamePass are going to be game-changers for the gaming industry and Microsoft in particular? Why are you suddenly not pushing that narrative now? I mean, I've been saying that Backwards Compatible is nice but not a selling factor to the average player. I personally like it, but it's not a dealbreaker. I've been saying that for months now and I've been harassed and argued with and vilified, but...it seems you agree with me but just don't like it when I use that same logic against Microsoft. 

There's a word for that. 



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