Cerebralbore101 said:
smroadkill15 said:
I have never stated Bethesda games would sell better being only on the Xbox ecosystem. I never have made this claim, and I won't make this claim. But the point of MS buying Bethesda isn't to sell as many copies as possibly, it's to make the ecosystem more attractive for gamers.
Sony could release Spider-man and God of War on PC, Xbox, etc and it would sell way more than making it only ps4, but that's not why they do it. Sony want to make Playstation the best place to play, just like MS want's Xbox to be to best place to play.
50 million Gamepass subs would bring in roughly 6 billion in revenue annual, and that's not accounting Ultimate subs. Then include in revenue from game sales, 30% cut on 3rd party games, Xbox live gold, steam sales, etc. The 50 million subs is a continues amount of revenue. I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion game sales would bring in more revenue. Even Sony's best selling year of ps4 exclusives total doesn't come close to this.
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I didn't mean to imply that you were making that claim.
@bolded That wouldn't make their ecosystem more attractive to gamers. It would just make Sony's ecosystem less attractive to gamers. Xbox doesn't become a more enticing brand by going from having Bethesda games to having Bethesda games.
The real question here is how much does MS have to pay each game individually to get it into gamepass? If that $10 monthly Gamepass sub is split between a lot of different developers and games, then is that really profitable?
I think you're forgetting that PS4 makes its money on more than just exclusives. 3rd Party royalty fees are the bread and butter of a console business.
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I don't agree with that. Anything that's on Xbox and not on Playstation would definitely make it a more enticing brand. If someone loves Fallout and Elder Scrolls, and they knew it could only be played on Xbox, I'm confident it they would at least consider buying an Xbox/gamepass. I've already seen enough comments on Youtube, and other sites from gamers feeling this way.
Right now, Xbox is getting roughly 1.8 billion in revenue from gamepass subs. Of course some of this goes to 3rd party fees and I have no idea what it could be because it varies. It could be anywhere from 200 million to 400 million, I really can't say. This still leaves them with a substantial amount of revenue, and this will only continue to grow going into next gen.
I know yeah, Ps4 gets sales from 3rd party royalties, but so does Xbox along with Gamepass subs.
