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smroadkill15 on 01 October 2020
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Cerebralbore101 said:
smroadkill15 said:

People will still always buy games because they don't want to pay a sub which is fine. They will still get sales from Steam, and get more revenue this way than if they only released on the windows store. Game sales for MCC, Flight Sim, Grounded, etc. show this. Right now, Xbox is making all the right moves to increase brand awareness and increase the userbase than where the xbox one is at. 

Right now, 15 million people sub to gamepass. Some play 10 games a year, some play 15 games, or some play only 2-3. Sub numbers will continue to grow and likely hit 30-45 million subs in the next several years. This is a consistent stream of revenue so it really doesn't matter how many games someone plays. 

Talking about raising brand awareness, and raising the userbase beyond just Xbox customers is just vague business-speak. It's as convincing as Enron's Mark to Market accounting was.

You're not sitting down and doing an objective look at the math. Show me a mathematical formula that proves that the revenue from Gamepass + PC Sales + Xbox Sales > PC Sales + PS4 Sales + Switch Sales + Xbox sales.


I have never stated Bethesda games would sell better being only on the Xbox ecosystem. I never have made this claim, and I won't make this claim. But the point of MS buying Bethesda isn't to sell as many copies as possibly, it's to make the ecosystem more attractive for gamers. 

Sony could release Spider-man and God of War on PC, Xbox, etc and it would sell way more than making it only ps4, but that's not why they do it. Sony want to make Playstation the best place to play, just like MS want's Xbox to be to best place to play.

50 million Gamepass subs would bring in roughly 6 billion in revenue annual, and that's not accounting Ultimate subs. Then include in revenue from game sales, 30% cut on 3rd party games, Xbox live gold, steam sales, etc. The 50 million subs is a continues amount of revenue. I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion game sales would bring in more revenue. Even Sony's best selling year of ps4 exclusives total doesn't come close to this.