| Hiku said: I think 500 for the regular PS5. There's also a theory that they will be the same price, but that the digital version will have a larger SSD instead. |
Lol... that bigger SSD theory is nonsense. Its practically impossible.
The PS5 uses 64GiB nand flash chips. One on each of its 12 channels. 64Gib x 12 = 768GiB = 825GB. Data is read from all chips simultaneously (like RAM) and that's how it has its 5.5GB/s speed. The only way the PS5 has a bigger SSD would be to go up to the next available NAND flash chip, that's a 128GiB chip (what's used in the XBSX/S). And the PS5 would end up with 1.65TB instead.
| shikamaru317 said: Alot depends on which bill of materials rumor was true. One leak said it was around $450, while another said that it was around $480 as I recall. And the rumor was that covid might increase the bill of materials due to reduced manufacturing and increased competition over available parts. And of course you have to remember that there is more to the cost of a console that just the bill of materials, there is also the cost of shipping the console to retailers, and the cut of the sale that the retailer gets. The break even point for Sony would likely be about $30-40 above the bill of materials I'd guesstimate. So in the neighborhood of $480-520 in order for Sony to break even selling PS5 physical. Digital would have the same BoM as PS5 physical, minus the disc drive, which considering that some regular blu-ray drives can be firmware updated to play 4K Blu-Rays, may mean that the BoM on PS5 digital is only about $25 less than the BoM on PS5 Physical. So at $350 digital and $400 physical, Sony could potentially be looking at a loss of about $120 or more on PS5 digital, and a loss of about $80 or more on PS4. That adds up quickly over time, say they sell 10m PS5 physical units and 10m PS5 digital units before production costs start to go down, that amounts to a $2b loss for Sony, and of course they would still continue to lose money even after that until production costs lower to the break even point after a couple of years. And while it is true that Sony was willing to sell hardware at a loss in the past on PS2 and PS3, that policy changed with PS4, with Sony specifically saying in interviews that they didn't want to sell hardware at a loss anymore. |
The covid rumor came up around the $450 BOM rumor too, and then it was suggested that sony was having a hard time keeping prices down. But more recent rumors suggest that both costs of the APU and the RAM are down now, for the APU it's due to "better than expected yields" and fo the RAM its due to reduced demand due to a fall in smartphone sales. That means that its actually more likely than not that the BOMis actually lower than that $450 rumor now.
| sales2099 said: I just want to add why do people assume the PS5 sku gap is $100? No way a disk drive is $100. $50 in cut costs sounds more about right. OP got that part right at least. |
The $100 expected gap doesn't come from what people think the cost of a BR drive is. We all know it doesn't cost $100. It doesn't even cost up to $50. That expectation is coming from what is more marketable and the fact that we expect Sony to be trying to push people towards buying the digital SKU instead. They stand to make more money from digital SKU console than a physical one.
So if the disc version is $499, then the most likely cost of the disc-less SKU would b $399. As $449 doesn't have the same ring to it and doesn't give enough of an incentive to see the PS5D as good value over the disc version. But if aspermy prediction the PS5 ends u being $399, then selling the digital SKU at $349would stillhave great value.
