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sales2099 said:
Ps4, for as weak as it was (Xbox One was weaker) launched at $399. For what PS5 offers, no way it’s that low. The specs aren’t on Series X level, but the gap isn’t THAT big.

Don't look at the power... thats really nothing at all. Look at the component costs.

eg.. in 2013, $35 would have got them a 500GB HDD. In 2017, that same $35 would get them a 1TB HDD.

In 2013, sony's 8GB of RAM, made from 16 x 512MB chips in a clamshell config cost them $88. so that's basically $5.5/chip. or $11/GB. Then in 2016, they were using 1GB chips on a smaller fab process instead of 512MB chips and that cost them $6/GB. 

In 2018/2019, 1GB 14Gbps GDDR6 chips (the type the PS5/XSX uses) had a component cost of $11. And that was before they shited fabrication to 7/8nm processes. Once they did, they now have 2GB GDDR6 chips, which with how these things typically go will just end up costing around $12/$13 per chip while 1GB chips dro in prie instead.

And what prices sony/MS (more sony than MS) would get from these vendors would be better than you ould find almost anywhere else in the industry. And that has more to do with the volume of orders they would be making at once.

Or more on the chip... a 325mm2 APU on a16nm process takes up the exact amount of space a 325mm2 APU on a 7nm process takes up. But when they say this process is more costly than that, its not like they mean its like two times the price something. Its more like a 20 - 30% premium that comes down over time as the fabrication process matures (aka yields improve). 

Another way to look at all this is, in 2013, it cost sony $380 to make a PS4. In 2016, the same $380'ish would have made them a PS4pro. What do you think $380 would make them in 2020?