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KratosLives said:

Seems like your grand parents and yourself would not enjoy a more misery based tlou 1. If you want to talk about pacing issues, go rest the first game. That game had more slow moments and repeat of events game design. The pacing was perfect in the sequel, and felt even greater on the second walkthrough. I have to say the game is a master piece, the game story can be analysed in many ways and is infact complex, essays and probably a book can be written into the story and events, relating to characters, the past game, themes, different themes and meanings.  I'm always amazed by different people's interpretations,  new discoveries, different perspectives that add to the overall understanding and lore of the game. In terms of misery, there was a reason to every action, but it wasn't that bad once you realise why it happened. A change of perspective alters the game experience. As much as there was bad, there was a redeeming factor. And the ending was great and hopeful, unlike the first game.

I love the first one and I'd recommend it to anyone. Although the original is a tragedy, it feels more like a classic tragic adventure, and everything was meaningful and full of hope. The end was kinda of a giving, I think no one would expect a proper fix for the disease. But still, the road trip was meaningful and could always get to a good settlement, even without a cure.

Now, driving mad women through revenge, is an absolutely inferior proposition by all means.

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If you got out of this game is revenge, then you clearly missed a lot. I suggest you replay the first game. There wasn't that much character development between Joel and Ellie in the first game. Most of it happened too quick and and there weren't that much impactful moments between them. I actually found their moments were done better in the sequel. First game Ellie's one liners and quirky/funny moments is what made it, but it was limited. As in raw performances, the standout out from Joel was probably his first meeting and talk with Tommy in the first game. It was performed perfectly, the acting and dialogue. but between Joel and Ellie, they didn't go deep long enough.  By the time Joel and Ellie are acting like daughter and father, it felt too sudden, as though a chapter or 2 was missing. 

People insist the sequel is misery, yet you'd probably find as much humour/quirkyness between dialogue on the journey , just like the first game.