apple/google vs epic mobile warfare where is nikkom when you need him

[theRepublic]

DonFerrari said:

Intrinsic said:

That's because the PC platform has so far been an open platform. And being open comes with its own quirks. First, you see multiple stores, then you start seeing "store" exclusives. And before you know what. you start to see content specific to certain stores within games available on both stores. Its just competition, its just business. All these people are in it to make money.

Lets put our personal biases (god or bad) towards any company aside and look at this practically. I am going to use Playstation as an example here since I am most familiar with them, but what I am saying is applicable to everyone in some way or the other.

1. You set out to build a new console. You spend hundreds of millions to billions of dollars on R&D, infrastructure, and marketing. You release your product. If this product fails, it's all on you. You absorb all the losses associated with that product.
2. Now you have created a product that can and will be sold to as many people as possible. You even do things like take a loss on the hardware to enable you to come in at a price that would allow you to sell as many consoles as possible.
3. The cornerstone of this business model is that you make money from the actual sales of software on your platform.
4. Then someone comes along, decides they want to tap into the users on the platform you have created, but also decides they don't want you getting a dime from them and they instead make all the money?

How is that fair?

An argument can be made that publishers can push for platform holders to take less money from them, but you will find that platform holders would require certain things from the publisher in turn (again, it's a business) eg.. fine, we will drop what we take from you for every game sold from30% to 5%, as long as you make your game exclusive to our platform.

That just how it works, and its a fair system.

I hope we can get to a point where the other companies don't need to pay royalties to Sony to launch the game on console, but also get no access to the devkits and whatnot. Just because Sony is thriving with themselves fully controling their system (but also enjoy putting their app on ios, android and some games on PC) doesn't mean it is good or worse fair. Sony isn't mandated to sell HW for a loss, they just do because that is what bring more profit to them under current model.

Are you trying to say you want to go back to the early 1980s, where a lot of crappy unlicensed software showed up on consoles with the console manufacturers being able to do absolutely nothing about it?  You do realize that caused a market crash right?  There is a reason the licensing and royalty model exists.