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EnricoPallazzo said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
This movement has only increased my respect for police, probably not what they were going for haha. To willingly put yourself in potential life or death situations is not something I'd ever be able to do, especially to protect people that turn on them so easily. Still it sucks, because even if the police reform doesn't do anything to hinder them doing their jobs, they might be more prone to hesitate when dealing with criminals who'll prolly feel more impowered, and split-second decisions make or break on this job.

Yep. And if they die because they hesitated in front of a guy with a gun pointed to their face almost nobody would care and would say he did the right thing.

You can be trained to immobilize, shoot tires or whatever but the moment a criminal points a gun to an officer well there is no option left. Unless the new rule is "let the criminal shoot first so you can be sure he shot first. Then you try to immobilize him if the bullet hole in your body allows for it. As last resort you can shoot them but only in the legs. Criminal safety first".

But who cares? It's only the fascist police they got what they deserved.

I agree that some of the assertions regarding when and how an officer should use a firearm are fairly ridiculous.

I also feel as if your implication that individuals here are arguing that dead cops are good is offensive and inflammatory.

While we should not take firearms off the table for officers, we should seriously consider both the threshold for force that officers are currently using and how they get into the situation where they feel they must use force. In both instances, it is not uncommon for deadly force to be utilized in an inappropriate manner, either through that instantaneous decision or through inappropriate actions or escalation by the police prior to that moment.