| vivster said: I think there are a few misunderstandings in here. I don't advocate restricting speech to a point where anything that's considered offensive by anyone should be punished and I don't think I ever claimed so. I was actually quite specific. But there are some very easy lines that you can draw. For example a person shouldn't call for a certain race to be killed. There are clear lines and those lines can be crossed. And if they are, there need to be consequences. When I say "removed from society" I mean literally removed from society, as in all of it. Because certain people have shown behavior that make it clear they do not want to play nice and want to destroy society rather than enrich it. So they should be removed. And then there will be no need for them to defend themselves because they will be gone. And before you go all fascism on me again, that removal is of course only for people who have been extremist in their actions and show no remorse for them, just like Donald Trump. If you define free speech as in "say what you want without consequences" then of course it is a myth. It does not exist in that form in any known country on this planet. And it shouldn't. Germany is a great example because here the speech is extremely free, especially towards the government. However it is restricted in quite a few significant ways and that is how it should be. Because spreading lies and inciting violence will lead to people getting hurt and that's why it is restricted. |
Do you mean the complete isolation and/exile of a person? Why would you think removing someone from society in such a complete and drastic and turning them into a pariah way would solve anything? How is that not just the erasure of pretty much all individual rights of a person? How is that not the same extremist action you yourself just condemned?
Hell, even the criminals who have commited the most heinous acts and are imprisioned on perpetuity still form part of society: They can talk to each other, communicate with the outside world in a limited capacity, be informed about current events, own propierty and even vote. Because even as criminals, they still are humans, and taking their rights away in such an absolute way would end up turning us into the monster we're supposedly fighting against.
