KLXVER said:
sundin13 said:
I agree that it isn't as easy as more training. Again, you should increase funding for social services, remove all military equipment, change the type of calls that police respond to, change what police are supposed to do when they respond to calls, create a system of legal and professional accountability for police misconduct, change and implement numerous laws and regulations to alter how police are supposed to respond to incidents, increase ties between the community and the police force including attempting to hire more members of the community into the police force AND remove the warrior training that is often utilized, replace that warrior training with training on bias, de-escalation and community centered policing. There is more, but that's a good start.
As for the lack of trust in the police, the police don't really need much help with that. Just over the past couple months with the protests, there were probably hundreds of incidents of police misconduct captured on film and broadcast around the world.
Now, you mention something interesting here. You essentially say that white on black crime is given far more publicity than black on white crime. That seems to be the opposite of reality. This entire article is a pretty good breakdown on the failures of the media when it comes to depictions of crime and its relation to race, but I want to specifically discuss the assertion you've made (the data is taken from multiple sources listed within the provided source):
The Role of News Media & Racial Perceptions of Crime
-In the determination of which homicides should be considered newsworthy, researchers found that journalists gravitated to unusual cases when selecting victims (white women) and to typical cases when selecting perpetrators (black men).
-When comparing representation in media to crime rates, the following trends were found:
--21% of arrestees were black, but 37% of suspects depicted on television were black
--13% of homicide victims were white, but 43% of homicide victims in the local news were white
--10% of cases involved black on white violent crime, but 42% of televised cases involved black on white crime
-Black suspects (and as a side note, black victims too) are portrayed more threateningly than white suspects
https://yourvoiceohio.org/3225-2/
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Overall, this implication that the media puts on kid gloves when it comes to black on white crime is pure bullshit. The media consistently contributes to racial stereotypes and has a huge issue with prioritization of white, often female victims of crime, while downplaying and often criminalizing black victims.
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Its not pure bullshit. It might have been in 2014 when the data you provided was taken. It was wrong then and its wrong now.
I mean can you even name one of the 19 unarmed white people killed by the police last year? Hell can you name one from the last 5 years?
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"When a white man kills a person of color, its national news and is discussed and analyzed to death. When a person of color kills a white man, it might get a mention on page 7 of your local newspaper. Its ridiculous. No wonder some people think the US is a racist hellhole."
Are you talking solely about police shootings here? Because you make no indication that you are. If so, I would agree that police shootings of black men get more coverage, however the race of the shooter typically plays less of a factor. That said, is that a bad thing? You said that you didn't want to get into the racial issues in the policing system, but we can get into that if you want. There is a myriad of data showing that the criminal justice system has huge systemic issues with race.
That said, do you have any comment in regards to the other things that I said in that post? I'd like to resolve that discussion regarding defunding and reforming the police before we move on.
