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LudicrousSpeed said:
goopy20 said:

Sure we've seen underwater gameplay in open world games before, but not with this kinda detail man.

That is what Sony's been hyping. Rendering massive amounts of geometry and assets and creating richer worlds. Call me nuts but to me that sounds helluva lot more exciting than Phil saying "the benefits will be felt most clearly in the mitigation of long load times and low or inconsistent frame rates that he believes hurt player immersion."

That wasn’t even gameplay. So who knows what we will actually see. But apparently you’re ok with the same mechanics we already have just more detailed graphics. Not sure why you’ve spent months worrying about Xbox then.

You’re entitled to the opinion that graphics are more important than frame rate. But present it as nothing more than your opinion, no need to spew nonsense about how “no one cares about 60fps” or “Phil Spencer thinks graphics aren’t improving”. 

You're taking everything I say way too literally. When I say nobody cares about 60fps then no, I don't mean there isn't a single person on the planet who doesn't care about it. All I'm saying is that developers stopped aiming for 60fps a long time ago as it turns out visual fidelity is more important for selling a game. Nobody Hardly anyone is going to base their purchase decisions by checking to see if a game is 60fps, they look at how well its made, how it plays and by the time they finished the game they probably won't even know if its 30- or 60fps. The only games were 60fps does become a selling point are online shooters, fighting and racing games.

Also, when I'm quoting Phil Spencer saying "The Xbox Series X will mainly use its expanded horsepower to improve load times and frame rates." Then no, I don't literally mean there won't be any visual upgrades at all. But you tell me what he's referring to when he says "And that might sound depressing to some"?

My point is that Phil is telling us to lower our expectations for next gen as the jump in visuals might not be as pronounced as before in the last console transition. While Sony is telling us the exact opposite and are talking about one of the biggest jumps in gaming history. Of course we need to see a lot more to determine who is right, but is it really so wrong for me to be more excited about what Sony's been saying (and showing) than to listen to Phil and lower my expectations?

I don't hate Xbox or come here to shit on it, I'm just excited about next gen. I expect both companies to sell it to me and blow me away. And not let me second guess if there's going to be a significant leap at all. Like I said, if they now completely blow me away in July, I'll take everything I've been raving about for months back and I'll be a happy man. But if so, then they sure have done a shitty job at promoting their next gen console leading up to the event.  

Last edited by goopy20 - on 02 July 2020