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LudicrousSpeed said:
goopy20 said:

Wow! Finally something we agree on :) The games themselves need to impress and not the benchmarks as most people won't know or care if a game is running in 1440p or 4k.

Many people seem to think its a good idea to give us options in next gen games. Like a performance mode with higher fps and visuals mode with better graphics settings. But there's a big difference between graphics settings and overall next gen graphics. Higher graphics settings is just some icing on the cake that doesn't have a real impact on how the game plays, its more like a toggle on/off slider like we're seeing on pc and mid-gen consoles. Overall visual fidelity is more about pushing a console to its limits while trying to get the best visuals on screen. For example, HZD2 now seems to have cloud and storm formations that aren't just there for eye candy, they play a role in the story and isn't something you can just toggle on or off. Same thing with physics, ai, npc count, dynamic day and night cycles and overall world/level design.

Whether you were impressed with Sony's event or not, they did show next gen games that are using the extra horse power not just for a bump in resolution/fps and graphics settings, but for core gameplay mechanics like the portal jumping in Ratchet & Clank, seamless underwater locations in HZD2 etc. Those are the things that set next gen console games apart from pc games at ultra settings and that's what MS should be showing in July.   

lol what is a “seamless underwater location”? I wasn’t aware HFW invented underwater gaming. And multiple people already discussed with you portal jumping or transitioning worlds that have existed in games for generations. We didn’t see any HFW gameplay but the gameplay we did see, Spider-Man, GT7, and Ratchet, didn’t look different than what you can already play from a mechanics standpoint. Just looks visually better for obvious reasons. Same with the Sackboy game and the AstroBoy demo game. Nothing wrong with that, of course. These are launch window or early games. But you’ve spent months arguing about how launch games should blow gamers away with new experiences, so I can understand why you’re reaching. But nah. 

Also who has been claiming anything about settings you can toggle to disable advanced physics or AI or weather, lol.  I don’t think you understand how graphics options work. 

Sure we've seen underwater gameplay in open world games before, but not with this kinda detail man.

That is what Sony's been hyping. Rendering massive amounts of geometry and assets and creating richer worlds. Call me nuts but to me that sounds helluva lot more exciting than Phil saying "the benefits will be felt most clearly in the mitigation of long load times and low or inconsistent frame rates that he believes hurt player immersion."