(POSSIBLE SPOILERS INSIDE) The agenda and political discussion of Naughty Dog

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John2290 said:

You've never watched twitch streams in games with character creators? The majority of men make female characters and love playing with digital Barbie dolls. 

You call people in this thread trolls and see toxicity but have you thought maybe you are also toxic on the opposite end with your "straight white males and their fragility" and what not. That's some toxic shit just to the other extreme. 

There's a world of difference between the toxicity that is bigotry and intolerance, and the supposed 'toxicity' that is reacting negatively to bigots and those who are intolerant. If you honestly equate "I hate fags" to "I hate homophobes" (in a roundabout way, not saying you directly said this), then the problem certainly isn't me. 

Because I do hate homophobes. The difference is that I'm not trying to hide it under a veneer of faux-sincerity and gussied-up language. I do hate racists and I'm right to do so. 

I know this is invoking Godwin's law and all that, but you'd punch a nazi or two, why not punch a neo-nazi? Some people are bad and don't deserve respect. If you hate someone because they're gay, or think representation in the media is ethically wrong, or think someone is superior or inferior because of the colour of their skin or the nation from whence they came, then yeah! I can get behind that. Hating someone for their actions and decisions and shitty views is a whole world of difference away from hating someone for something they cannot control. 

If you kick a dog, I'm going to be rightfully angry. 

IF you support people who kick dogs, I'll be rightfully angry. 

Right now, you're arguing that I'm as bad as someone who kicks a dog because I Said 'hey, you're a shitty person for kicking a dog'

That is the level of discourse there is in the world. There is a difference between right and wrong. Ethical and unethical. I'm not nice, but I'm right. Anyone who has seen progress throughout history knows that, in time, tolerance is getting better and more widespread and that anyone holding onto bullshit like 'the game's SJW propaganda becuase there's a trans person in it and that's bad' are wrong. They are wrong, they need to learn they're wrong, and they need to realize how much they're holding progress back by pushing their backwards agendas and resisting positive change. 

They also need to be called out on their subtle bullshit when they try to justify their shitty beliefs with rhetoric that sounds reasonable on the surface but is damaging overall. Which is what I'm doing.