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twintail said:

1) I'm going to need some examples of 'diversity' being marketing more than anything else.

The biggest one is the Disney Star Wars Trilogy, The Last Jedi especially. Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson banged on and on about how diverse their new films were, yet the Disney trilogy has some of the most one-dimensional main characters in the entire series. And when fans were criticizing The Last Jedi, staff at Lucasfilm and the media attacked them calling them bigots and racists for not blindly accepting the garbage writing. Showing that "Diversity" in this case, is nothing more than a smoke screen to cover up poor writing. Again, Diversity on its own isn't bad, but once you spend more time braging about Diversity instead of writing a good narrative, then people are going to call you out on it. 

2) BW is one of the more pointless characters from the Avengers. A lot of her appeal happens to be her actress, a good looking white woman.

Okay, then how about Ripley from the Aliens franchise, often hailed as one of the best written characters in all of cinema. Point is, there's plenty of examples of good female protagonists in the past. Nobody had a problem with it before. This is why when I see people complain about the lack of "Diversity" in games or entertainment, I just roll my eyes because to me, they're complaining about an issue that never actually existed, at least not in recent times. 

3) Unfortunately, I'm going to have to disagree on that. 'If you want to write about a black protagonist, or female protagonist, that's fine. But make them compelling human beings first before anything else.'.

So if they aren't written as compelling human beings, just automatically make them a white guy? Because, white guy protagonists don't need to be written well, just use them for all cases whereas female and ppl of colour characters must pass a special checklist to ensure they are viable to be main characters.

yeah... ok. 

What I'm saying is that human beings should judge each other based on content of character, not on their gender or color of skin. The same argument applies to white male characters as well. White or not, if your protagonist is bland and uninteresting, then why the hell are we following him? Bring in somebody who has a personality. 

My point is that, creators should not get so worked up about whether their character is the right race or not. Just write characters first, then pick whatever race or gender you feel like making them. I don't care if its black, white or whatever. Give me protagonists I can be engaged with. 

Last edited by TheMisterManGuy - on 27 June 2020