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Runa216 said:

Oh, I have many, many arguments. Good ones. Great ones, even. What I don't have is the time to go into the level of detail needed to explain WHY they're good arguments. Furthermore, I don't believe for a second based on what you've written that you'll even consider the reality that I'm right and you're wrong. It literally doesn't matter what I say, you won't concede or even consider the possibility that you're wrong, your points are based off nonsense, and your stance is misguided at best and outright damaging at worst. 

Okay, let's hear them.

I have arguments, but laying them out in a concise, timely manner is not worth my time because I don't believe you possess the capacity to even consider a single thing I say. Literally everything I say will be met with you simply using it as a prompt to push another faulty agenda or incite another bit of logical fallacy so you can feel alive by arguing. 

Again, you're making broad generalizations because you don't actually want to discuss. If you want to disagree that's fine, but you should at least explain why you disagree with me. like twintail did, and I'll try and explain my points or maybe even agree on some of yours. 

Inclusion shouldn't be seen as an act of politics, it should be normalized. you disagree. your fundamental stance on the issue is one of subjugation and prejudice. Until you get out of that hole, we cannot have a decent conversation on the matter. 

If you were to actually read my posts, you would know that I was never against diversity. Just the fake, corporate diversity that brags about having a minority cast, and thinks that excuses them from writing a compelling characters. There's absolutely nothing wrong with protagonists who aren't straight white males, and people should have the freedom to write about whoever they want. But they should also make sure that these are characters first and foremost. Give them flaws, motivations, goals, personalities. These are the traits normal people actually look for in characters. This isn't even me pushing some "alt-right agenda" or whatever, it's basic writing 101. 

Stop trying to get a 'debate' out of me. All you're interested in is trolling me for responses to fuel your desire to argue a point; you have no interest in doing what's right or finding the truth. This never is or was about inclusion, it was always a political platform to cry about being repressed or underrepresented because gay characters went from 0.003% representation in the media and are like 2% now...which certain groups see as overrepresentation. This is because Females went from 5% to 8%. To some people, it's just an SJW agenda, and people who believe that cannot be argued with. 

And again, diversity isn't a bad thing so long as the characters are well written. I'm not against diversity, I'm against bad writing using diversity as a shield to deflect criticism, which ironically enough, it exactly what you're doing right now. 

Last edited by TheMisterManGuy - on 27 June 2020