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KLXVER said:
Dante9 said:

The first TLOU was dark as well, but here was an element of hope and innocence with Joel and Ellie navigating the world and their respective histories together. The sequel takes that whole dynamic away right at the beginning and what's left is just misery and torture porn with no hope of anything better or redemption of any kind. I like dark, that's not the problem but there's so many ways they could have gone with the story, it could have been so much more meaningful and it's actually hard to come up with something worse than what they did.

Yeah, well they did that in the first TLOU. They tried something different with TLOU2. I personally like that. I didnt really want a sequel to TLOU because I thought the ending was great. So I assumed TLOU2 would just continue the same way. It didnt and I now feel like theres a reason for the sequel.

Also the scenario I had in mind while playing would be worse than what they did. lol 

Spoiler!
I was scared that Ellie and Abby would hook up for some reason

Regarding your spoiler, that would actually have been very interesting. Think of the possibilities and complexities that could have led to, instead this lazy and simplistic revenge plot.