| Jaicee said: In response to the first paragraph I've bolded above, I have made no attempt to hide my opinions about gender identity on this thread. I have plainly stated from my first entry here that I think gender identity is bullshit flat out. The only way to change my mind about that is to demonstrate exactly how being female (or male for that matter) is just a feeling. It needs to be explained concretely, convincingly, exactly what it means to "feel female". That is the task I set before you. In answer to the second paragraph I've bolded above, I would point out that I have no objection to transmen accessing women-only spaces like shelters for battered women or playing on women's sports teams (provided they don't use drugs like testerone that would tend to give them a physical advantage. Transmen do, in fact, sometimes do these things and I have no objection to it because they are biologically female. I'm not trying to put anyone in unnecessary danger here and I'm not afraid of trans people. I'm just a realist. |
To your first point, I don't really see any point going into that. I think your statements say all that need to be said. Those who are "gender critical" are simply transphobes who deny all transgender individuals their identity. That is basically the entire point I was making. Thanks for making it easy, I guess. If you want someone to explain how it feels to be trans to you, you probably shouldn't be asking me as a cis-man.
To the second, if we are to be concerned about women's feelings, why is it acceptable to have a masculine trans man in these spaces making them uncomfortable? If the issue was truly about the concerns and fears of women, why should it matter who exactly is causing them to be uncomfortable? Drawing an entirely arbitrary line here demonstrates to me that it is not about women's feelings of safety and concerns regarding how a woman might feel if a bearded individual walked into "their space", but instead just another lightly veiled means of denying trans identity and repressing trans individuals.
