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sundin13 on 14 June 2020
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Snoopy said:
sundin13 said:
You need to prove this point first:

"There is not enough jobs, money or resources to go around"

As we just left a time of historically low unemployment, I think our capacity for jobs is still more than suitable. The statement "there isn't enough money to go around" seems functionally nonsensical. I have also seen no evidence that we are short on resources, as, for example, we waste 80billion pounds of food each year, which is enough to feed roughly 40million people.

A lot of Americans are already starving.

https://mashable.com/2016/07/14/child-hunger-united-states/#:~:text=1.,struggle%20with%20hunger%20each%20year.&text=An%20estimated%2048.8%20million%20Americans,some%20point%20during%20the%20year.

25% of Jobs in US are at risk of being automated.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/25/these-workers-face-the-highest-risk-of-losing-their-jobs-to-automation.html

And I am pretty sure I don't need to show source on United States debt and the lack of money to provide benefits such as social security/ medicare in the near future.

The fact that Americans are starving is insufficient to prove your argument. There could be other factors contributing to this than a lack of food. Last time I checked, my grocery stores are still stocked, so I don't think they are starving because the stores near them simply lack food. My alternate hypothesis, is that this is a symptom of economic inequality and insufficient social safety nets, not a symptom of insufficient resources.

The same can be said for the argument regarding automation. Automation will certainly change our job system, but will it result in a severe net decline in jobs? That is an entirely different question, and research has shown that Automation may actually increase the size of the job market and the average wage of jobs.

https://www.sensrtrx.com/robot-automation-can-actually-create-more-jobs/

However, even if we have to cope with a post-scarcity economy, the solution to that isn't necessarily reducing the population. Automation generates economic product and increases productivity and efficiency of manufacturing, which maintains a source of highly taxable capital which can then be redistributed to the people. This will very much change our society and economy, however, it isn't an existential threat, by any means.

I can also go further and describe the negative consequences of a declining population, however, I see no point if you cannot prove the fundamental assertion upholding your argument.